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#119 - "Body Love" (ft. Natalya King)
This episode Jay and crew sit down with Natalia King. Natalya is the owner of Body Love by Tal, a business devoted to harnessing the power of nature for skincare and overall wellness.
We delve into Natalya's past, from her early days as a college athlete to her transition into a life centered around clean eating and whole foods. She reveals how a fasting experience radically altered her life and reshaped her relationship with food. Natalya shares her compelling story of facing parasites and undertaking a life-altering parasite cleanse, which not only deepened her understanding of holistic health but also gave her social media presence an unexpected boost. She candidly speaks about her struggles, living paycheck to paycheck before her business took off, and the importance of strategic partnerships in the business world.
Weaving together threads of Western and alternative medicine, Natalya emphasizes the importance of a combined health approach. We discuss the need to understand our bodies, the role of proper hygiene, and the art of making healthy options taste good. Natalya's emphasis on 'God foods', her fascinating experiences with natural deodorants, and the power of parasites all make this episode a must-listen. Don't miss this opportunity to learn from Natalya's enlightening journey towards holistic health and wellness.
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Speaker 2:Welcome to thispodcast. I'm your friendly host, Jay. Joined by my friend, we got Co.
Speaker 3:Man, man, man, man, man man. What are we talking about?
Speaker 2:And uncle Damo is out, but I'ma hit his drop.
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Speaker 2:You could catch us on all major streaming platforms and video on YouTube. Shout out to the incredible Lawrence and Laramur for providing the space. You could catch them at 3225 East Co-Fax Avenue or you can go to laurencenlarimercom and get the latest fall drip. Is that what they say in these days, co Drip?
Speaker 1:Do you want to?
Speaker 2:make sure I'm saying the right lingo.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're good. We're good, we're certified, we're stamped, we're stamped.
Speaker 2:We're stamped All right without further ado. The reason why we got to make sure we have our terminology correct is because we have this young lady that is a business owner of Body by Tow and they believe that nature has the power to heal, nourish and restore, Rediscover the beauty of natural skincare and move away from toxic synthetic products forever. We want to welcome Natalia King to the pod. Yes, you hear that guy in the back. He's excited to hear, we're excited to. This has been a long time into making the three of us well. I met Co ages ago, but we were all together on a short of ours at the block party at the Clayton. Shout out to Joss Blake, she was the one that put it together. Michelle Trail, Michelle Trail, yeah, I can't forget Michelle.
Speaker 2:She was the one that made it really happen.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:But you were just in the most interesting guest we had in that, short by far, yeah, and young, so educated when it came to a lot of things, but specifically herbal. I want to make sure I say this I've been working on this all day Apocatheary.
Speaker 3:Apocatheary, apocatheary, you did it. Apocatheary, apocatheary, apocary, you said it Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2:And just natural being natural, getting away from processed foods, all that good stuff, right, and we'll get into that. But yeah, that's how it happened and here we are today, so we're excited to have you.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having me, absolutely. So before we get into things, let's talk about your association to Colorado. We were talking behind the scenes of just how you got out here and everything as far as roots in Oklahoma, texas, and then you moved out here when you were.
Speaker 3:I moved out here, I'm not even wondering what we moved out here. I think I was like 16 years ago. If I'm 27,. How much is that Around that time?
Speaker 2:You was about like 11 years ago, yeah, 11. Yeah, okay, 11 years old. Yeah, 11 years old.
Speaker 1:All 11 years old when you.
Speaker 3:I think around 11 years old. We moved out here and I went to elementary school here, I went to middle school here and high school here and college here.
Speaker 2:Got it.
Speaker 3:I've been here for a long while. I like to say I'm still from Oklahoma and Texas because I go back there so often and my dad still lives there, my sisters and my grandpa, a lot of my family, my aunts and uncles and cousins, so very connected to both places. But I've created a beautiful home and family, you know, here in Colorado as well.
Speaker 2:Awesome, that's cool. Yeah, I mean because Oklahoma is like one of the four corners. You know what is the other three Co? It's us Oklahoma. Can you name the other two? Arizona and Nebraska. No, no, New Mexico.
Speaker 1:Mexico.
Speaker 2:Not not Arizona, new Mexico and.
Speaker 1:Oh Utah.
Speaker 2:There you go. Yeah, a little trivia there.
Speaker 1:I'm so glad you didn't ask. I mean, I passed my geography.
Speaker 2:So you did so. You went to high school at Regis right and you were an athlete at Regis.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I played volleyball through college too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's another thing we noticed at the block party you were like the tallest woman there. Yeah, I feel you're like at least six foot.
Speaker 3:I'm six. Well, according to, like the dog, five, 11 and a half, but as soon as I put shoes on, I'm six foot Six one. I wear heels.
Speaker 2:So I wore heels. So I was six foot Six four that day.
Speaker 1:Oh, ok, yeah, let's talk about that. So, college athlete toughest gym to play Toughest what Toughest gym to play in?
Speaker 3:Gym to play. Yeah Away, oh, away, away.
Speaker 1:Away game Crowd Toughest crowd Loud.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 2:No, you don't know.
Speaker 3:I don't yeah.
Speaker 2:Crowd means nothing to you. Tune it out, tune it out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I wouldn't say toughest. I think like our rival, like who we would bump heads with, but I think the toughest crowd was probably like CSUCU just because, they were talking mess and we stuck.
Speaker 1:It's the worst thing you heard. What's the worst thing you heard?
Speaker 2:Oh, this is why you're at UNC. Yeah, ok.
Speaker 3:The worst thing I heard, I don't know, like it would just be funny. It wasn't bad. It's just like they're just talking mess but you can't really hear everybody. But that was also a long time ago and I've had a kid, so I don't remember much.
Speaker 1:I got through it. It was very traumatic. My son drowns all that out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I drown all out.
Speaker 2:I forgot that entire experience.
Speaker 3:Yeah, shoot, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Well, in volleyball you played what Spot? How does it work in volleyball? Because the only thing I know is like the setter is like dedicated.
Speaker 3:But okay, we got the libero, okay, the passers. You got your outside right side in the middle, but you rotate so people are doing more than one thing, essentially like the outside hitter has to know how to pass in the right side as well. Middles, you can get subbed out, but I was a good server so I had to serve and pass as well. Um, but yeah, that's how it works, so I was middle, middle blocker utility, utility, do it all do it all, whatever you need me to do fill in?
Speaker 2:Yeah make it happen. Well, I think this will lead into current events and, how you know, talk about body by towel, but as an athlete, because we were asking you behind the scenes of like, hey, when did you go on this journey of you know, clean eating, putting the right things in your body? Is it fair to say vegan?
Speaker 3:No, okay.
Speaker 2:Got it, so like explain holistic whole foods.
Speaker 3:I eat a lot of whole foods.
Speaker 2:And what does that mean exactly?
Speaker 3:so whole foods are like your fruits, your vegetables, your beans, your grains, local meat, grass-fed, local eggs, like from our farmers that's why I was telling you about the farmers markets and things like that but like just really great quality fruits, veggies and meats. Eat a lot of seasonal, seasonal foods. That's like huge eating seasonly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3:I'm not vegan, but I do eat mostly plant vape plant-based. I think that that is really crucial To have that as your base.
Speaker 1:Well, so how often do you eat me?
Speaker 3:It depends like I'll go 21 days, three months. It depends on, like, how I'm feeling. But I would say if just like a regular cycle, I would do meat like maybe two to three times a week and, yeah, sometimes I just I fast and do certain things. Not all the time, though right, I'm gonna get crazy, but I definitely implement that seasonally.
Speaker 3:Sometimes I do fast once a week, though, because sometimes I just Want my body to rest and heal and and be great for the next day. You know, and men and women are different, so my process is a little different and I really do stay close to like my cycles as a woman.
Speaker 2:So Know that, that's great to hear and I'm glad you corrected me because People do think when you talk about you know holistic foods, just making sure that you know cleansing right, like that gets put on a certain kind of diet, yeah, and it's refreshing to hear that you say no. No, I am definitely a omnivore, you know, for lack of better term but the things that I put into my body, our high quality, is what I hear when I say you know, hear that, so that that's awesome to hear in.
Speaker 2:Can you talk a little bit about the things, because you say how it makes you feel? Can you kind of equate the feeling of making sure that you have, you know, the high quality foods and how that intertwines with the spirituality of that, because I think that's a real important connection.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so how it intertwined. So initially, like I didn't really know how it intertwined until I started fasting I'm my first initial one was a pretty rough one, but I just went 21 days without eating just liquids and then at the end of it I did a water fast. But just like spiritually, like higher thinking, I feel like it allowed me to be more in tune with my purpose and it was very clear of what I was meant to do On this earth and at this time, right, and I think that's where my old soul came in and I just stopped going out as much. I stayed in, you know, really just introspective time.
Speaker 3:But I just feel, like you know, there's, like I call them, god foods right in gods food are like things that are just naturally created in nature, right, which is like your fruits and your vegetables and your beans and your nuts and your seeds, right. It's just like when we consume a lot of gods foods, like we, you know, we have like gods consciousness, like we, we're leveling up essentially and I don't, I feel as though people are able to see a lot clearer when they, you know, cleanse their body and they're eating a lot cleaner. I think there's a direct correlation and you'll see that, like when people start eating healthier and having a healthier habit, say, just vibrate on a different level, essentially. So what is the side?
Speaker 1:what age did you do your first fast?
Speaker 3:This was like Uh, what is this? Like? A year or not Two years ago, maybe two years ago, I did my very first one. Actually, I was not making great decisions back then like this. I think this is my third time going broke in my business, which is crazy because no one would ever know. But I was just struggling and at that point it's like I had a house. I was like I need my parents help all of that. So I just turned to God because I literally was like at rock bottom at the at the time. Um, and then when I did my fast, it was like I jumped timelines, almost. It was like the craziest thing.
Speaker 2:It's like oh, it's like I switch.
Speaker 3:Um, just just, I don't know, I don't, I don't really know how I explain it, but I remember going on youtube and, uh, people were just talking about their testimonials on like fasting and just how, when they wrote down a certain prayer or certain thing, it really came to fruition. And so I was like, okay, obviously my way is not working. You know what I'm saying. So let me lean on God. And, um, you know, and again, I went to a catholic school, so a lot of their teachings were off and I just didn't.
Speaker 3:I wasn't with all of the god stuff, like I wasn't with it at the time, and so it was really hard for me to Connect with God, you know. And so I feel like, after that fast, I created my own relationship with God and that's why I always say, like they're like tell, what are you. I'm like relationship over religion any day, because now I know the relationship I have with God. It's like a different type of Feeling, I don't know, but I don't think I would have gotten to that point if I didn't fast and I wasn't just like Hungry and just praying, you know, and just you know, um, fasting's definitely for God.
Speaker 1:So what? So what prompted the fast? Was it? Was it? Was you like yo? I'm at this space in my life where I'm really trying to find my purpose, or I'm really trying to find A certain spiritual connection, right? So therefore, I'm gonna choose to fast to gain clarity and already get there.
Speaker 3:What was the impetus to get you to the point to where you say you know what, I'm gonna try to fast um, I think, just Knowing that my decision-making was like putting Not only myself I'm like my son at a disadvantage and I didn't that didn't feel right, considering like he didn't ask to be here. You know, it's my responsibility, but I think we went to church that, uh, sunday and I remember the pastor talking about, like we're fasting, this is the fast I'm doing, I'm calling you guys to just give up something, um, and I think that, like I don't know, like when he had said it, mind you, I don't like going to church and so I never went to church and this is like once in a blue moon. But when he said it, I just started like tearing up, immediately, you know, and it just hit differently and I just knew that I needed to do it. Um, and when I, like I said, like once I did it, it was just like my life, just everything, in all areas of my life, just Just changed completely. I don't even think I'm, honestly, a new, like I think, when you guys have met me, I was just, I don't, I think I was in the midst of it. I don't remember. I think it was either afterwards or in the midst of it during that time.
Speaker 2:Got it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I was demo's here because he needs to learn about fasting a little bit I think that'd be good for him Real quick, before we lose this, uh, uh, that's not right, the listeners know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, yeah, um, you said something interesting just about. Okay, let me back up. So apocry, apocry, apocry, apocry, and herbalism and everything that you practice. You're definitely not a phony and you live it, which is also a part of body by toe brand, right? Yeah, tell us from the business aspect of the struggles that you you just mentioned, if you don't mind, of like how you started bumps in a road and now you're in a good spot, if, if, you could take us through that transition, or that story.
Speaker 3:Well, I'll take you kind of from the beginning. So initially, right after college, um, I signed up for I think about like 72 jobs and got zero. Uh, I think I got one interview and this person came on and he was like you are telling me everything. I want to hear, Like, what do you want to do? And it just was like whoa, like you know, cause most of the time when we're trying to get jobs, we're telling them what they want to hear.
Speaker 2:Absolutely you know.
Speaker 3:And so, um, I was like okay. So I was like he's like so, what do you want to do? And I was like, well, something in the holistic realm. I remember, um, and so my mom actually had a juicing company back in the day, and actually with untie uh, which she's here today, um, shout out to untie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, shout out to untie Um, they had a juicing company, um, but they stopped the juicing company and then, um, people that knew them wanted them to come in a store and like have their own like little storefront within a big place. And so they my mom was like I don't do it anymore, but my daughter makes her own skincare products. Mind you, this was like me home making, doing my own thing in her kitchen, not really blasting it in, like you know. Whatever the case, so they're like, yeah, come on, like bring her in. So we literally turned. Mind you, my son was like so young I was still breastfeeding and we turned around a business in three months. We built a business in three months, staying up until like four AM every single day like labeling and like coming up. I think we like wasted about 50 pounds of shea butter just trying to get.
Speaker 2:I mean it's.
Speaker 3:We didn't waste it, but it wasn't you know. So we, we, we came up with all the products and like what we started with which a night and day from what we have now, but it was like a very challenging but beautiful process. I went into it's called the just the district shops in Cherry Creek and it was amazing. It was like all these local stores in one space, and I was one of them and so, essentially, like I had my friends and family opening and then we had the big grand opening and I think when I saw like I made all my money back that I spent on it in like the two days, and so I was like, okay, wow, cause you know, I was nervous about my prices, all that my mom was like no, like you have to believe in yourself and this is what you're going to price it, you hand make it all. She was just telling me like she's like no, like this is you need to stick to this. And so then I, the second day, where it was just like people in general, it was like okay, I can do this, Like and people are really rocking with what we're creating, right, and so then the news channel got a hold to me. Cool, so fast forward.
Speaker 3:The district shops I was probably the most you know. I made the most money in that space. It started going downhill really quickly. I had a lot of crack heads stealing my stuff. Like it was just really bad and no, I'm like not kidding Like it was really no, I'm not kidding yeah.
Speaker 1:Not because we're stealing your product.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so they would. So it basically came kind of like um, it's like this huge warehouse, but a lot of people started getting mad and they weren't working in their shops anymore. So it was kind of just like me up there alone and there would be crack, like literal crack heads, because they chased them down, got their bag that had needles and everything in there and they were stealing a lot of stuff but telling their friends.
Speaker 3:I'm, yeah, I, I wish I was joking, but no, I so I was writing down. Actually, I was writing down in my dream journal, is what I call it. It's like my visions, and you know, and I'm have my back turned towards like all my stuff and, uh, vince comes up his name was Vince at the time and he was like, did you, did that lady pay for all those body butters? And I look, I'm like no one's been up here. They stole like all my body butters that I made and, yeah, he chased them down and crack heads are still in body butter, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I told him I was like don't chase after them.
Speaker 3:They must have really needed it. So I was just like it's okay.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I got this body. Why did?
Speaker 3:you.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, you also want to tell you what party? You just said hey, it's body butter.
Speaker 3:What part I? Just because what am I? What am I going to do? You know, when crack heads have extra strength, I'm not trying to get your back and they well lubricated, evidently like they body.
Speaker 1:They like respectfully, If you needed that bad please, about all means man the funny thing about it man crack heads on the bottom of shape.
Speaker 2:But well, not a. They got bad skin, so that's going to help them. They know how to go. They like I need this body. I need this body butter.
Speaker 3:It's okay. You know, like I just, you know, I'm like very much like a peep, like I don't know, like I always think of like it's crazy, but I always think of like why did they do that? Like where did they come from?
Speaker 3:Like I just think of all the things and then I'm just like it's not that you know, I just really you know it's just sad, you know so, you know fast forward. So I had to go out of that space, of space, shut down completely. I didn't have an online presence for I didn't have an online presence until probably like a year and a half ago or like when you guys met me is when it started popping off.
Speaker 3:I did not have an online presence like that, and yeah, so I actually had to nanny and I love the family till this day and I had a job down here at the fetch with that shut down, and so I was doing my, my stuff on the side and then nannying. And then it got to a point where, like, literally, I would take all of my products, give them to my friends and like, especially the ones that didn't have the best skin, and I'm like take before and after pictures and I would like I was just on it, you know, just kind of like hustling in that way, and so then I would post about it and like the before and afters, and that's really how I started getting traction in that realm. So, you know, I was just making it shake in my basement. I bought a house and during that time and then I just, you know, I had to go. I had one little lifetime table. It was so dark down there, I remember it.
Speaker 3:I would just make, make some stuff, you know, and send out orders, because a lot of people at the district shops like really rock with me, but not enough to like maintain, like living, um, and so essentially, again, once I went on that like again I got up to like maybe 3000 followers and like I was doing pretty well for myself as far as like just hand making stuff, I was going to pop ups farmers markets, like waking up at 4am to drop Eli off at 5am, and yeah, yeah and pop ups here, pop ups there. You said do I go to Denver a lot? Honestly, no, now that I don't have to do any more, pop ups.
Speaker 2:I try to stay close to home.
Speaker 1:Yeah so.
Speaker 3:I would pack up my whole car. I had a little Prius back then and I would zoom up to. I would zoom up here. Prius has a mouth.
Speaker 1:She got to have a Prius man.
Speaker 2:She would have said a Bronco. We would have looked at you for a minute listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 1:I have my friends take my Prius all the time, so I don't know, it's all the vibe, it's all the vibe.
Speaker 3:So I, um, I just I hustled and it was so hard on my body and I just I would go back to Untying to get Eli and some days I didn't even make enough, like I made enough just to pay her and I would go back with zero dollars, right, and like I would just be exhausted and she would be like it's okay, like she was so sweet about it I'm like no supportive, you know what I'm saying Like, and she charged me hardly nothing and it was just so sweet and kind, but I would just go on her couch and knock out you know, saying and so she would feed me, feed Eli, and you know.
Speaker 3:And then when my mom came back home, of course, like my parents were very much so involved still to this day, like I would not make it without my parents, but during the time of the farmer's market, like season, where I was really out there Um, like I said, my mom is in Oklahoma doing amazing work till this day. She's doing amazing work, but she was there at the time. So, anyhoo, um, I did not start popping off on social media until I went on my fast and I got on camera and I talked about fasting and first cleansing.
Speaker 3:This is my very first fast and I talked about how, like God put it on my heart to talk about parasites, that's all. And I've never heard about parasites. I remember like I went to my holistic doctor and she was like, oh, you might have parasites. I thought she was crazy because I'm like worm, like come on.
Speaker 2:You know, like and honestly, when people hear that, they just like, exactly.
Speaker 3:So that was like the first time I ever heard about it. But God put it on my heart heavy. So I was walking in Whole Foods and I look on the right and there's one more parasite cleanse left and I grab it. And then I start taking it and I saw what made you what's so?
Speaker 1:let's drill down there. What made you grab it?
Speaker 3:I don't know, it was just looking at some sense. Yeah, but that's how God works and when you're tapped in, that's how it works, you know and that's why I'm saying like people can say anything, but I know what happened during that time. Like I, because that's your relationship.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's my relationship.
Speaker 3:And again, like you know, people said God talked to me, like God shows me signs. So I listened right and so I just walked past and I got it and, mind you, my social media was not pop. I'm telling you, I've maybe got a hundred, two hundred at most and I, if I got 200 likes on something I was hype Like oh my gosh Like yes.
Speaker 3:You know, and I was just so happy I got three orders a day. Like when I started getting like orders a day, I was like oh my gosh, you know, like it's happening. It's so cool yeah.
Speaker 1:Start feeling like El Chapo yeah.
Speaker 3:I was just like what in a spinning money, Like I had no business spinning. I'm like, oh, I just got an order, Like I'm going to go out to dinner.
Speaker 1:The tie is out there. Trap Right.
Speaker 3:Or you've been like.
Speaker 1:I was buying bottles, yeah.
Speaker 3:What I was buying bottles. Everybody at bar shot this one. I was partying, yes, yeah. I'm doing dumb stuff flying out here, flying my friends out here, because like when you anyway? Well, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2:That's part of the journey. We want to know that stuff. Yeah, I was out a good time. We was like popping bottles yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, I was outside, okay, and it's nothing for me outside, so I'm in the house now. But yeah, it was just. It was just a constant like living pay tech to pay check. I was like I got this pop up, I know I can make my rent, so like let's hustle Right. But yeah, so I got, I did the parasite cleanse, saw some crazy stuff and I talked about it and then boom like took off.
Speaker 3:Da da, da da da. And I was like this is crazy, you know what I'm saying. And my mom was like, oh my gosh, can you not like put your poop on? Like, can you not talk about like? You know? It's just kind of like this Cause that's so personal. Yeah, she's like what the heck is? And she's like why aren't you talking about your business? And I'm like mom, I have to talk about this. Like, this is what I have to talk about.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:And again, I wasn't making, like people probably thought, since I was popping off on social media, I was making money. I wasn't. First of all, social media doesn't pay you like that. It's the brand, the partnerships that you get that pays you Right. And I wasn't making money. People were not. Actually they weren't buying my products, but I was popping off, so people but you had a large following. I had a large phone.
Speaker 2:Hold on before you go there, Co.
Speaker 1:Let it finish, cause I know it.
Speaker 2:I know what you're going to ask. Yeah, continue. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:No, that's, that's it.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, ask.
Speaker 1:So so I think that's the. That's kind of where we're at. You know what I mean. Like a lot of people engage, but I really watch it.
Speaker 3:Mm, hmm.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. So, like for you, you're like yeah, like people are, I got followers, but I really purchased in my product. I didn't really believe it in what I'm actually offering. I think what I want to drill down on is um well, what was that first viral moment when you was like, damn this, this is crazy?
Speaker 3:I would say, when I, when I I did a video, I did a sound and it was like, when it was like asking something like, um, why don't doctors, why don't doctors talk about parasites or something, and I said, like everybody would be healed, something like that, something very like, just very conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2:Like, are we like, are we can be a theory theorist or are we the true tellers, Right? But anyway, no, no, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 3:But, um, I said something like that and it went crazy. That was like the first, I think. I went viral in like a span of two weeks. And then the other one is like I talked about Eli's pinworms cause I started parasite cleansing him and then all of a sudden you know I was in the parasite talk and I was talking about a heavy. I just started getting shadow banned and then my my account started getting taken down and it was just like, oh my gosh, like I have to find another way. And that was a full circle moment of like I have so much more to talk about than parasites. Like I have, I have my own skincare brand, right.
Speaker 1:So why do you think you're getting shadow banned? It's cause I'm messing with big pharma.
Speaker 3:I'm influential, like still to this day. One of my papaya videos that I did is one of the top watch parasite videos on Tik Tok like till this day.
Speaker 2:And that's I'm glad you led us to that Cause. Naturally, that is the journey Knowing your background, people, knowing your story, how you're trying to reach out to them and help them.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Before I came here I was talking with my, my wife, because she's a nurse, she's going to school for her nurse practitioner and, when it comes to herbalism, apothecary those things.
Speaker 2:I just asked her off the top, like how do you feel about that? Because we're conditioned to say, hey, when we have headaches, when we need treatment, go to the drug, get the Tylenol, get this, and that You're saying, no, there's natural, god-given things that you can eat, putting your body that was meant for you in order to cure the remedy. What I just wanna know, like, how was the fight and the struggle into putting your life work and letting people know the truth?
Speaker 3:I guess I mean it was scary for a while. Like I think what was more scary is like these like holistic doctors were inviting me to like their private rooms and things like that, and it was just like whoa, and like you can go into like a really dark rabbit hole and it's just like you don't wanna go there, cause, at the end of the day, like you wanna be solution-based because, regardless of how I wanna put it, I was fear-mongering. I was fear-mongering people and that's not the way to go, cause fear breeds sickness period, right, as we see. So I had to like really reevaluate the way that I approached health and wellness, and the way that I was doing is the way that a lot of people that are empowered that are not good do it, and I didn't wanna I didn't wanna approach it like that anymore. So I became more solution-based.
Speaker 3:Like I'll sprinkle some sassiness here and there, but it's like, is it worth my life when I can preach the same message and be more solution-based? Is it worth my family being in danger, like all these things? Right, because when it comes to the big pharma, regardless of whatever anyone things, even when you talk about curing cancer, like you'll see all these holistic doctors and practitioners dying all like just crazy stuff, or committing suicide. It's just like you know what's so beautiful? Cause this is the year of things being revealed, right. The energy of this year is that, and the beautiful the NY even feel comfortable talking now on it is because so many people are waking up and talking about it. If you go on TikTok or Instagram, there's so many people talking about the same thing, so now I'm no longer at target, right, like there's no more it's everywhere, it's everywhere.
Speaker 3:It's everywhere. But again, I can do the same message and then give back to my business, because now we have a beautiful space and all that with six girls and it's just a great time. But I had to once my like literally I would wake up and then my TikTok was down. My TikTok was down and then they would not tell me why and it was just like, oh my gosh, and it was messing with my mental health, cause I'm like I have so many people to help.
Speaker 3:Then you get all these testimonials of people parasite cleansing and then like all of a sudden, like all these things, no more issues, no more health issues at all. Right, and it's just like crazy. So I just had to, like take a step back. And then also, what I want to say about nurses and doctors is that, one, their hearts are in a beautiful place and two, we need Western medicine. It's just the powers that be are money hungry and all they care about is money and they don't care about anyone else. And so if there was a world of like holistic medicine and Western medicine coming together, it would be a beautiful space.
Speaker 1:What does that look like?
Speaker 3:Functional medicine, functional medicine practitioners and doctors are out there.
Speaker 1:My best friend is one. But what does that look like specifically? The blend between Western medicine and alternative medicine coming together to help the people.
Speaker 3:Western medicine needs to be at a need be basis, not every single little symptom. It's like let your body heal First of all, you go into a doctor's office.
Speaker 3:they won't even ask you what your diet like, what's your sleeping patterns like, what are your habits. They don't ask you any of that. And so that's what that would look like. It would look like okay, let's give you the base and if it gets worse now let's bring in Western medicine. Like, for example, I try to have a home birth with my child and I was rushed to the hospital. It did not work for me. I needed medical care, I needed it. But it's like let it be at a need be basis, because when you have people reliant on all of these medications and then it costs 20 more, it's like follow the paper trail. Like pharmaceuticals, they make billions of dollars off of people being sick, so why would they sit there and heal people, right? So it's just like again, we need doctors. We need again. If I break my leg, am I gonna put some herbs on it?
Speaker 2:Like, let's be real. I'm glad you said that, because no, absolutely we need to go in and get some help.
Speaker 3:We need that.
Speaker 2:Because I think and I'm with you, I think what you're preaching is that get away from the money grab of, like hey, forcing drugs on patients. Like if you're really concerned about their health right. And not all doctors are like that, or you know, et cetera. I won't get into that. But anyway, a lot of what you're talking about is like preventative healthcare.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean In the beginning it's like if you put the right stuff in your body, if you're putting the right stuff on your skin and applying it, you know, as far as cleansing yourself, a lot of the problems that you might be experiencing now if you're in that state, can be avoided. But to your point, then there is the other aspect of like science, of like surgeries some kind of illness that you may get, that might need penicillin or whatever it might be. You know, once you are sick, so I hear you.
Speaker 3:So it's like a lot of preventative care and like you even asked me like, what are whole foods? It's like things that aren't in a package, Like you know, like less processed things. People are drinking like four sodas a day on average. Like cut that out alone. Like you'll live a healthier, like there's so many little things that you can do.
Speaker 1:Man. So I'm gonna tell you a thing. For me, let's say yo, you are sick at this point. Will natural remedies bring you back? And I'm not laying in it, and I'm just asking your opinion. I'm not laying that totally at your feet. You know what I mean, cause that's a heavy question.
Speaker 3:So I'm saying I will simply answer it. If there's a will, there's a way. That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1:Now, is it a mixture of what you put in your body and, like you said, your will? You know, cause? I heard a real interesting thing I'm not gonna say interesting a real powerful statement that Michael Irvin said. He said like, yeah, we're always worried about our skill, but if you don't deepen your will, you're gonna get your ass kicked. Now, is that a mixture of putting the right things in the body and willing myself to get better?
Speaker 3:Well, dr Robert Morris has a quote and he literally says there's no such thing as incurable Like there's no such thing as incurable diseases. There's only incurable people. Because they have to want to heal. Your mind has to be right, spiritually, emotionally, physically right. We always start in the spiritual realm. Spiritual realm manifests in the emotional and the emotional manifests in the physical right. So what I will say is, if you are proactive instead of reactive, you're going to be at a advantage of most, most of everyone in America, especially because a lot of other cultures they're cleansing once or twice a year. They have these routines or just like these cleansing practices that they're constantly doing and we lack that in America. I mean, what is it like? Pizza, hot dogs, like that's what Americans are known for burgers, I was about to give you some pizza after the show.
Speaker 2:Fast food, yeah, Fast food.
Speaker 1:So I thought about giving you some pizza after the show.
Speaker 2:I did, I was like.
Speaker 3:I have an 80-20 rule.
Speaker 2:I'd not when Tao came, I was like I can't go to Fast Alley's, I can't no, no, no, no, she's here yeah.
Speaker 3:And that's also what I don't want. And I came to the light and it up with the Tao.
Speaker 1:I was like you had to give me the cheese and mushroom.
Speaker 3:Oh no no, no, cheese Cheese carries 80-20.
Speaker 1:Inflammation, parasites, absolutely.
Speaker 3:All the things 80-20, 80-20, 80% you do what's right for your body and like 20%, like again, most people are like 70, like bad and then 30, okay, you know, but if you do like a 80-20 rule, what's like most of it is like plant-based whole foods. And then the 20%, you know you enjoy yourself, cause I love to enjoy life, like I think, even when it goes to really nice restaurants, like I love the art of chefs and I love, I love tasting different foods from all of the world, I love to travel, all those things. But I'm not gonna waste my 20% on like fast food or like not quality food. Yes, yes, yes yes, that is.
Speaker 2:Can I say something real quick? Because I am. I used to be very stringent in my diet too. And I won't say I'm at the level you are because you're just, you're phenomenal in the way you're killing it but, I, was more like plant-based quality foods, but when I did have that cheat day like I was gonna make a count. So I'm not going to McDonald's or something. I'm like going to a fine restaurant or something like that.
Speaker 2:So that feels good for you to say that Cause I'm like yeah, when I cheat, I'm a cheat. Like it's gonna be a nice cheat that I'm gonna enjoy and it's not gonna be like a quarter pounder or something like that.
Speaker 2:But what I did want to ask you is just to go back to you know the ubiquitous of how things are starting to spread when it comes to, you know, herbal medicine, holistic foods and things like that. How do you convince cause I think early in your message to your point, it was a little contentious right, like combative, like my way or the highway, and I'm just saying this in general how do you now persuade those that do wanna walk the path, but you know it's hard and it's not like they could go cold turkey, it's like no, there's steps to this, like, how would you guide somebody that's looking to go the same path?
Speaker 3:The first. That's a great question, because it was my way, or the highway, and it's like I know what's right for you right. That's really how I felt. And then I would like be just a menace in the household, like don't do that, don't eat this, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Like, just who wants to be around that yeah?
Speaker 3:So now, honestly, when it comes to even social media, like I know who's ready because of the type of questions that certain people are asking and I know who's not ready by the type of questions that people are asking, and so, as far as, like, how I would lead them is like, okay, we're gonna start off in this way, we're not going to eliminate anything, we're going to add to, and what your body is naturally gonna do is it's naturally going to yearn for those healthier things. Because when you're a mineral, like certain cravings that we have, especially like when I'm doing one-on-one, one-on-one consultations, like one of my first questions is what kind of cravings do you have? Cause, now, I see, like what kind of minerals and certain things that you're deficient at. But what I tell people is let's add to right Before you eat the.
Speaker 3:I don't know what people eat. Let's just say Snickers bar, like have a peach or apple first and then, if you still want to, you know, it's just like making that like mindset switch, so like let's get you there. But it's like a lot of like healers, which, again, all of us have different ways and it's also beautiful, but it's like when people start diets like you're 80%, like it's like a 90% failure rate when you start a diet cause you're just trying to cold turkey, eliminate all these things Like, let's not do that, let's just add to. And it's like okay, before you drink that soda, let's have a cup of tea. But you like juice, right? So we're going to make it taste good Like our eternal glow. Literally tastes like Kool-Aid but it's like a natural laxative.
Speaker 3:But it tastes so good. Like it's our eternal glow tea. We have a turn go tea and we serve it Like at all of our get-togethers it was actually hilarious.
Speaker 1:It tastes like Kool-Aid.
Speaker 3:It literally tastes what it tastes like. Okay Well, I'm not kidding, so but but we told people one cup and people were drinking it and we got calls like we were all the toilet.
Speaker 1:It was so funny I was like I told y'all, but it was like a laxative, I was like a viscous rosehip women lavender and things like that.
Speaker 2:So we.
Speaker 3:We warned them, they just didn't listen. But it's like there's ways to make it good and healthy.
Speaker 3:And I think when you start giving the people the tools, okay, cause people don't want to give up what's good to them or their comfort, and a lot of people have a lot of emotional ties to food, and so who am I to come in and be like it's like, okay, again, solution base, let's be solution based, and like let's work through this. But also like you're going to have to want to make that change and it's hard sometimes, like you have to kind of recluse and go into your own little bubble and, you know, be what you need to be, because not everybody else around you is going to understand, you know that man yo so let's talk yeah, go ahead, go, I gotta just keep talking.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about milk. You know, like I think I think milk is. That is that hot button question.
Speaker 3:Milk.
Speaker 1:Milk? Yeah, Because, and the reason I say that? Cause you got people doing almond milk, you got people doing old milk, you got people saying skim milk. What does milk play in the role in this overall, you know, holistic journey? Should we be drinking milk?
Speaker 3:That is a hard question. I just think that.
Speaker 1:Because calcium cause. The doctor tells you calcium.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Comes from milk. You know we need the protein like we need that stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's the way it's processed. One Okay, the way it's pasteurized, processed You'll have a lot of different like. I like to study what everybody says, right, there's people out there who are like meat and raw milk, right, grass, bed meat, raw, like all natural, da, da, da, da da. And then you'll have people that are like, no, like no meat, no milk, none of that. But then you have to look at the way that it's processed, right, especially, even like you have all the gluten free. Are people allergic to the like, are they allergic to the wheat? Are they allergic to the glyphosate that they're spraying on the crops? Right, like.
Speaker 3:You have to look at those things and so, like right now, some of the farmers cause I know a lot of regenerative farmers and things and what they're doing is they're making raw milk illegal and like what they'll tell you is it has all these things, but what it does for some people's bodies is it's able to break down the lactose when it's raw, but when it's pasteurized and heated up and all those things, it processes in the body differently. Like raw milk, yeah, raw milk, but, like I said, it's like it's different for everyone. That's why it's like so important to intuitively take things on, because I know some people who are really okay with dairy raw dairy, specifically like no one is going to be good with glyphosate sprayed wheat crops or, like you know, the gluten free. It's like they're not allergic to the gluten, they're allergic to the herbicides and the pesticides that they're spraying.
Speaker 1:Wait. So where do you get the gluten from?
Speaker 3:The gluten is in the wheat. Like it's like the-.
Speaker 1:Is gluten naturally in wheat?
Speaker 3:Yeah, gluten is naturally in wheat. Okay, gluten's not. It's like it's natural. But what they're saying, like you know, everything's gluten free, it's like, no, it's the what they're spraying on those crops and people aren't linking the two. It's glyphosate. Look it up. It's like the worst. It's roundup. Essentially, it's like the worst possible thing.
Speaker 3:Even the president in Mexico banned it and that's what I that's what I would really like people to start to study are like farmers and the way they process things and how it gets from point A to point D, b. You know all these things because it goes through a long process and it's like it shouldn't be that long of a process, right? That's why, when people go overseas to like Europe and stuff, mind you, like the first thing we eat. When we woke up, cause I went to, I went to Germany and things is like eggs and cheese and bread, but my stomach wasn't buzzing like it was in my friends that live overseas. They lose like 20 pounds and they say the food doesn't affect them. They come down here and their stomach is buzzing Like it's just a process.
Speaker 1:So breast to coffee.
Speaker 3:What.
Speaker 1:What the creamer?
Speaker 3:Oh the udder to coffee. Okay, okay, I got you. It flew over.
Speaker 1:The udder to coffee. I mean, that's how it should truly be made. I said if you're going to make, it that way, but you still should limit dairy, though you still like.
Speaker 3:If you study blue zones like they're mostly eating whole food, plant based meals, that's most of their meals. They're not doing a lot of meat, they're not doing a lot of dairy.
Speaker 1:It's like I'm going to tell you so wholesome. I'm going to tell you so wholesome.
Speaker 3:Other you gotta study these things you got to study, like where the places in the world those are blue zones that people live the longest and you know in different places of the world but all what they all do is they all garden. They know exactly where their food is coming from, right there, all like unconsciously Working out from walking or gardening or hanging out with their friends, like they're doing all these things and it's like we don't do any Of those, like we just don't like it takes, I don't know, I posted a picture but it takes like this process of this process, of this process, then gets it in the supermarkets, but back then it was like farm to table.
Speaker 3:I'm so like I love farm to tables. If you guys ever go to Mexico, to the Santos, they have the most farm to table on. Tanya and I, we all went and it was like we ate what we wanted to and was it bad? Like, did it hurt your stomach? It didn't hurt your stomach, so that's like that's my next thing. It's like a lot of these and like I'm not coming for anybody, but a lot of these raw vegan and all they. They don't farm, they don't garden, and it Irritate me but it does, because it's just like if you talk to a lot of regenerative farmers, they're not going to tell you about how you should eat and what you should do, they're gonna tell you the practices that you need to start implementing into your life. It's like the whole you give a man a fish. He eats for a day, but if you teach him how to fish, he'll live a lifetime.
Speaker 2:That and you know it's funny. You said that because, well, my wife is here, shot to tish.
Speaker 3:I.
Speaker 2:Had problems with dairy and didn't know it because I would, how heavy milk drinker, like the whole milk every year without fail sinus infection. Yeah and I. The moment I stopped drinking milk, I Was good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can't do it a lot of black people can't be drinking milk, though. You have to understand the ancestry part of it too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you pound cake. No, we love us a pound cake.
Speaker 3:No see, that's what.
Speaker 1:But also you have to understand, I don't take off the menu.
Speaker 3:Our mentality is like like, I mean pound cake, but it was. It's a slave mentality way of eating in the black community and it's so sad. And they use our food to weaponize us. Understand neck bones and pig feet, all that. Those are the scraps that they gave us and we're just so amazing, beautiful and creative that we made it good Just like we do everything else.
Speaker 2:No, absolutely. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So it's just like yeah, but I can't do dairy. That's what I'm saying. I. I don't care if it's raw, I don't care if it's from straight from the other. I can't do milk, it's not happening.
Speaker 1:Is it because? Is it because you personally can't do it, or we shouldn't be happy?
Speaker 3:No, no, no, it's me personally, and that's what I want to get away from, what everybody should be doing, because what's right for my Body is not right for yours.
Speaker 1:Okay, yep.
Speaker 3:That's why intuitive, intuitively eating, seeing how your body feels after eating stuff, resting in that it's like the spiritual part of food in the connection to right absolutely I bet something that you grow from your garden is going to serve you better, because your DNA and your microbes, all those things are in it, versus if I come and eat from your garden. That's how powerful the soil is. Don't get me started.
Speaker 2:That my wife has us a tish, has us on that of like the best, like when she's gardening we're not right now because we're just doing things, but when she was and she'll get back to it is that it tastes amazing. Yeah you know what I mean and to your point, I think, since we are in America, big business, everything's big business, right? So when farmers are and I'm not gonna say all farmers, but most food that's manufactured is Manufactured that way so they can make the most bang for their buck.
Speaker 3:So they're gonna put the worst way.
Speaker 2:Poison in those pesticides you talk about, like all that's gonna be a part of that process.
Speaker 1:Man, so I should not be eating in big-ass turkey legs.
Speaker 2:From the turkey.
Speaker 1:No, I'm talking about. I'm talking about when you go to the fair. The fair, you get that big-ass turkey leg on that in that aluminum foil.
Speaker 3:I Should not be if you want to eat a turkey leg, eat a turkey leg, but at least that you're knowledgeable about what it's doing to your body. And that's what most people they don't know what it's doing.
Speaker 2:That's why I'm telling myself but now I love that you're saying that, because that's that's what's wrong with somebody says, diet like I cut it off immediately because it's like lifestyle you explained it.
Speaker 2:Everybody has different elements of their body and need to be in tune with what they eat, how it makes them feel spiritually, physically, and that's what I came to find out with me experiencing different diets. I came to a realization that now I can just look at things and be like, not, that's not good for me, or at least I know if I do eat it how you're gonna feel.
Speaker 3:What I'm getting into, because a lot of people are like oh my gosh, I have this wrong with me, this wrong move, that they're not linking it to the food. It's like not at all but it's like it's so the simple answer yeah, right, but like what I like to your question. You asked me so what is basically like the right way? It's like mostly plant whole foods, plant-based and seasonal eating. That is like the one thing I'll stand on, so means seasonal, me in season produce.
Speaker 3:So, like right now, what's in season, like the peaches, are out of season and this is why it's so important for you, like for us, to Indulge in farmers markets, because you'll see what they have in natural grocers is an amazing, amazing place, but you'll see what the farmers are bringing back because that's what they grew in the season.
Speaker 3:So, right now, what's in season are apples, pears, dates, celery. Certain, you just want to make sure that you're eating around the seasons, and one seasonal produce is cheaper as well, but it has more nutrients and more minerals in in the produce.
Speaker 1:It's because our bodies are our wire to eat Within season.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and also that's what's growing right then and there. So think about it. If I'm eating a pineapple, where the hell is the pineapple coming from?
Speaker 1:February.
Speaker 3:They're growing it like I really think that. I'm like what I mean? Obviously they have them, but it's probably sitting up somewhere and they're spraying the mess out of it for it to stay okay right, right, like absolutely everywhere you grow they have seeds of what the heck I mean. I'm just like sometimes I just sit down and think I mean I might be, but I'm like I don't where they getting.
Speaker 2:No, no, you make perfect sense when you get it.
Speaker 3:Cranberries are in season. That's why you see like people switch to seasonal scents and seasonal decorations. Let's seasonally switch our food too. Wow, you know, I've never.
Speaker 1:I've never heard it from that perspective.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's awesome. I'm saying this podcast like I'm thinking, the pineapple is healthy, regardless of when you're in it.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean.
Speaker 3:It's just how it's healthy.
Speaker 1:But your body is wired to eat a pineapple in the summer.
Speaker 2:But yeah, and then also to our point is that if you know, being Colorado, look at the weather. It's like how are you gonna grow peaches at this time, right? So, like, in order to preserve this peach, you got to put stuff on it and you're eating that.
Speaker 1:Yeah to enjoy this peach man You're both so convinced has killed, is killing us. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the man is a killer. But but also just to like even if you're not right spiritually, emotionally, it don't matter what you're eating, what you're doing, you're gonna be sick, and that's what I want. People like everybody's so focused on the eating and what should I eat? It's like are you, do you have a good community around you? Are you exercising? Are you sleeping Well? Are you eating right? That's one factor of all the factors that you need to you know, like are you holding in your anger, releasing it? Do you have a way of releasing it? Like are you really holistically? Holistically taking care of your body? I don't care how you eat. If you are resentful or have anger pent up, you'll be sick for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1:So there is a fast for the spirit? Huh, so there is a fast for the spirit. Yes so so you know, fat fasted from food is one thing, but then we also should be fasting our spirit.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm, I'm just like building that spiritual muscle, building that emotional muscle. There's so many books on it and Just exposing spiritual. What is exposing spiritual? The book that I gave you or sent you, we have it. It like links Every spiritual issue to an element. Yeah, yeah, essentially it's by Henry, but it's such a good book to read because it's like whoa Like. Even he gets down, like your left breast if you have breast cancer, your left breast You're resenting a mother figure or sister figure in your life and he's helped people all over the world and forget, like forgive them, and all of a sudden they don't have issues anymore.
Speaker 3:Or like this one lady couldn't even live her leave her house because she was alerted to everything and she had the spirit of fear, and he helped her through that and now she's living her regular life right, and so it's just, oh, exposing spiritual truths. I think that's what it's called. Don't quote me. It's amazing book, though, but when you just start getting into like that and just unlearn everything you thought you knew and then relearn everything, and then you're like whoa.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. You know well.
Speaker 3:Cuz.
Speaker 2:I want to give you time to talk about body by town, because you're doing amazing work there and you know the products that you sell. I Bought some soap you did yeah, with the little. The scrubby thing yeah, yeah, I'm a scrubby guy.
Speaker 1:I'm a. I'm a loofah now. So we had this debate Debate in my house one day. It was loofah or towel. Which one do you prefer?
Speaker 3:Lufah's throw that thing away.
Speaker 2:I got a play away that's a nasty.
Speaker 3:The way that it harbors bacteria, the way that it's even built is like, then, the Whoever made that?
Speaker 2:like, I'm giving you the biggest side.
Speaker 3:I like what the fizzak Throw them away.
Speaker 2:So I was a loofah guy so, but I use scrubby hands for my body and I use a.
Speaker 3:I use the biodegradable, disposable Clean towel wipes or I do a clean washcloth. I never use the same wash, like I use a different washcloth every day. And I use my scrubby hands because you can wash them to exfoliate my body. So I do exfoliate my body every day and then, yeah, like I'm loofah, throw the cuz. Think about you walk. When's the last time you washed your Lufa or exchanged it out I'm a towel.
Speaker 1:I'm a three day towel guy.
Speaker 2:I would say like a month.
Speaker 1:You're a muffler.
Speaker 3:She's like three months. I hate to break your mouth.
Speaker 2:I'm out here running dirty. We're running around dirty.
Speaker 1:I grew up on Lufas.
Speaker 2:I grew up on all of that.
Speaker 3:I used to wash my body and then, with that same washcloth, wash my face.
Speaker 2:Wash your face. That was just back then.
Speaker 3:Some people just don't know. It's not something to be like.
Speaker 2:They just don't know. It's okay.
Speaker 3:I feel like you guys are saying a lot of people are nervous to talk to me because they think I'm like this. I guess I have my ways, but I'm still just a regular person. I'm chilling, I'm not going to come into your home, in your space and judge you. I'm going to love you. If you are ready to receive, if you ask, I'll tell. I'm going to tell myself because I've learned that is not the way to get people. You know, don't ever just force yourself on people. Just allow them to come to you.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about the hygiene aspect of all this because I think we haven't touched on it Code, just pulled up a clip on.
Speaker 1:Instagram.
Speaker 2:Natural deodorant Limes.
Speaker 1:That's a whole process.
Speaker 2:I'm going to take people through how you get there.
Speaker 1:Please walk them through it, because it's my judgment and I own it. A lot of people want to say, hey, I'm going to take this on natural journey. You kept it a hundred. You said look man this natural journey is not for the week. You walk around somebody's natural deodorant and you.
Speaker 3:I'm like onion burgers you ain't right around here, you ain't tart man.
Speaker 1:You need some aluminum.
Speaker 2:Somebody will be like yo, here's the degree, man. It keeps you cool too.
Speaker 1:It keeps you cool. Yo, I'm not going to hold you, but you need this.
Speaker 3:When I was out in the clubs and stuff, I wore my natural deodorant during the day, but when I knew I was around a lot of people and we're dancing, I would put on. I'm like, hey, can I use some of that? I'm going to start messing with my lip.
Speaker 2:Nah, I appreciate that this was back then though.
Speaker 1:I never go out anymore. Hey, listen what she said when I was in the streets. You said the other. Hey what?
Speaker 2:we're not going to do, I'm not about to smell the whole set.
Speaker 1:You know what kind of drink, it is Dehydrate in my body, that is awesome to tell you.
Speaker 3:I mean I have to keep it real, but now absolutely not. But I think, okay, I'll take you guys through it. Of course I get this a lot. I tried all the natural deodorants. They don't work. Is it the deodorant or is it you? Respectfully.
Speaker 2:You have to check.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, it tells you what you put in your body?
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly If you eat a lot of leafy greens. Chlorophyll naturally just detoxifies your body completely. It's like an internal cleanse. Essentially, that's really great when you smell, but yeah, when you switch over to a natural deodorant, your body was holding in all these toxins and it's going to release it. So I tell people that they're going to go through a two-week detox process of just smelling. It's not for the week. That's why I tell people all the time make sure you're properly hydrated. But I just think it's a beautiful way for your body to tell you like help me, help me.
Speaker 3:Help me.
Speaker 1:It's something to go that easy, but that's what I'm saying. But that's the thing. Though it's all funny because J and I were sitting here laughing and I was showing them your video. I said see, it's all funny games where the little bellybees are around your waist. Walk around here, be barefoot. Say I'm going to go to the natural beautician. Absolutely. Until the month of the locks. You get the lock. Until the month of the arms start really stinking. You got the willpower to stick it out, to stick it out.
Speaker 2:Because that's going to be the breaking point.
Speaker 1:You have to reapply it.
Speaker 3:Every two hours. That's another myth. You can't just apply it.
Speaker 2:It's like 24 hours.
Speaker 3:The natural deodorant is not that you have to go slow and love the process. It's different. We can control what we can control. We have a lot of outside pollutants. We can control what we put on our skin. Our skin is the largest organ. Everything is absorbed through our bloodstream. 80% of what we put on our skin is absorbed into the bloodstream. We're voluntarily poisoning ourselves. Bed, bath and body work. That used to be my stuff, sweet pea. I used to love it. Now, if I go to play, I just can't. The smell of it just gives me the worst. You don't even know what's making you sick. I'm just here to educate and to empower, to be on this journey with everyone. I'm still on my journey. I want to empower people that I had to start somewhere too. I don't want to discourage people. It's like a lot of work. Yes, it's a lot of work, but it's so worth it.
Speaker 1:Some people can be out here eating chili dogs. They think you're going to throw us with that or they're going to be smelling good.
Speaker 3:You can't be drinking soda.
Speaker 2:You can't be going out every weekend, you can't be, going out every weekend.
Speaker 3:You can't be smelling good, even when it comes to weed and dehydration of the body. You're going to probably stink too.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of things. Do I have to get rid of my creed cologne? You gave me that. Look, you have to get rid of the cologne.
Speaker 3:Just go see what that does to you your manhood. First of all, cologne, just go research it for me.
Speaker 1:Wait. No, no, no, no wait.
Speaker 3:Chat.
Speaker 1:GBT it up. So cologne, does something to your manhood. What All your?
Speaker 3:hormones? No, it's not talking about it. I want you to do your research. It's so important. This is what I'm saying. You have to check everything. You need to check the label.
Speaker 2:First of all, when you buy that expensive cologne do you ever see the ingredients?
Speaker 3:It says fragrance. Fragrance is the key word for 800 ingredients that make it smell good.
Speaker 1:You're talking to middle-aged men. We need to know.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you also y'all be putting too much on to begin with smelling up the whole room. That's not how you do it, so with three sprays no I just do one spray and walk into it. If you're going to do it. Don't poison us with that stuff. It's poison, it's straight poison. By the way, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1:Now you're scaring me, Natalia, because I have cologne.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's poison.
Speaker 1:Middle-aged men, you're telling me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I want to smell good, but Disrupt your hormones. I'm with you.
Speaker 3:Just look it up, look what it does to you.
Speaker 2:No, my tish is on that too. So yeah, she's getting me on the natural deodorants at least.
Speaker 3:Yeah, on the natural stuff.
Speaker 2:And I'll be nervous out there in the streets.
Speaker 3:I'm not going to stop working.
Speaker 1:No to say. You know what? I've dropped it down forever Life for the longest. I'll do it little more than free. What A deodorant.
Speaker 3:That's better.
Speaker 1:I'm not ready to go for what is it native?
Speaker 3:Yeah, native is not. I would not recommend native though that's what I'm saying. It's like okay, here are the list of things that aren't good, but also keep it so simple. Keep it so simple. Coconut oil is naturally deodorizing, or you can do the little salt spray. We make our own deodorant as well.
Speaker 2:Now let's talk about it, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we make about everything, but yeah, it's just like you have to educate yourself on. Okay, these are the things that are really toxic for us not only for us, but the environment. And here are the things that are like okays, right, and the more simple, like, if you can read, if you can't pronounce most of what's on that label, like it's a no.
Speaker 3:Got it Like automatically. It's like why is there so many things on this label Like a lot of Like? If you look at our products, it's like I don't think we use more. I think the herb ones are like the longer ones, because all the herbs that we put in there, but you won't find more than like six, eight ingredients on there.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm not going to hold you because I had a problem pronouncing apothecary, so yeah that's okay.
Speaker 3:I might not be the right dude, that's okay.
Speaker 2:But so you did bring gifts. Yeah, I'll tell you. Can you bring some of those back so we can show it on camera of, like, what you brought us?
Speaker 3:I was like I'm talking to you, stop at the shop, because I was getting dressed all out. You're not out of time, dang.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. All special man yeah we even got gift gifts. You guys don't get gifts. No, we do, we have gifts.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I love gifts. I thought there was a third person, so this is for him.
Speaker 1:Yes, d-mo, d-mo that he's, he don't need one Body butter. I could be glistening.
Speaker 2:Oh, this is what the crackheads were stealing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the body butter. Yeah, that's good, the body butter.
Speaker 2:It was in it. It was still in this.
Speaker 3:That crack make you ashy man. Yeah, I'm excited about this. You can smell it, that crack make you really ashy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, lip balm, yeah.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say it has a citrus smell. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that one's wild citrus.
Speaker 3:That's like one of our top selling ones, I would say.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, people love that one. I know we're going into, but that's a good one to have.
Speaker 1:Man, it's on the top.
Speaker 2:Body love by Tau.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. So I think for me, like we already know what your passion is, right, mm-hmm? What is something that you want to Like? What's something unique to you that you would like, via masses, to know?
Speaker 3:That's a weird. I got the wrong question oh okay, no.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 3:I just I want to be. I want to be a vessel for God, Like I just want to do the work that I'm supposed to do here.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:So, if anything, it's like I will be that light in a dark space for people. I hope to be essentially Like that's really. That's how I feel.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. This is called cast Bustin' Bustin'.
Speaker 2:Last question so do you do bath sounds? Am I saying that right? Tish, is it bath sound, sound bath?
Speaker 3:sound bath, do you?
Speaker 2:uh, do you offer that?
Speaker 3:No Sound baths.
Speaker 1:What is that?
Speaker 3:sound baths, like different bowls, different hurts, like healing, healing sounds, healing vibrations. That's why I was telling you like I don't listen to secular music anymore Because the vibrations are. I mean it's like scientifically proven that it's making us sick. A lot of the music is making us sick.
Speaker 3:It was a message, the rap music, all that. But I mean honestly, like I just I'm just calmer and I now feel the difference. So I just, again, I can like get a little jiggy here and there, you know I'm saying, but I just like my calm music and I see a difference in even Eli. He's like my son, he's super calm when I play certain music.
Speaker 2:So yeah, Well, last, this is the last question we have for you. In the spirit of Uncle D Mo, did you have a good time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I hope. Shout out to the audience Coming, but I really hope you guys come to our shop oh yeah, oh, yeah, yeah we would love for you guys to come. We're in Parker and, yeah, I just. We make a whole bunch of skincare and we have a lot of herbs. We have over what? 65 organic skincare products and over 175 organic herbs, and so we tell people the all your socials addresses, all that good stuff.
Speaker 3:Oh I, what is our address? I Don't know if we just moved it. We just got it April and my direction is so bad, but we're in Parker office, south Progress way. And then All of my socials. It's all my social like in my handle, but it's body love by towel. It's all across the board, tick tock, facebook, instagram, and I post a lot of like health tips and Holistic healing tips there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what else I guess that would be that will be hosting classes, but, yeah, we'll be doing a lot of work, you know, in the future and like, honestly, body love by towel. It is a vessel to like the like bigger things that we're gonna be doing to really help people be, you know, self-sustainable and just giving back to community in a lot of ways. So we're really excited For what's to come. And shout out to my mom, shout out to my team, yeah, and my support system because, honestly, like, we have just amazing. I just want to shout them out though. It's like on Tanya, then we have Kim, then we have tinkerbell, lauren, kirsten, and those are the girls that make up body love by towel, including my mom. She helped, everybody's helping, you know, and so just a lot of love to them as well. And, yeah, nice how to shout them out, you know absolutely People.
Speaker 2:that's the foundation, that's the community.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's 104, 70 South Progress Way Park, colorado, 801.
Speaker 2:Well, I was gonna ask you who would you think would be a good guest to come on this dot podcast.
Speaker 3:I think that Javon Taylor, the owner of green spaces, and Josh In this and they say we in this mode.
Speaker 1:He did oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Josh Yep yeah, he's everywhere and I just I know him personally and he is first of all. I know both of them personally Javon, Amazing human he's like a yeah.
Speaker 3:He is honestly the reason why I got into a lot of like pop-ups downtown and stuff. He brought me into this space and I will forever be grateful for him and just anytime I need business, anytime I need someone. Josh has always been there too, but I just love how motivated and creative and he's like really a hustler. Who else? I think you should absolutely have my mom on here, karen ecu bond. She's doing a lot of philanthropy work out in Bollie, oklahoma, one of the last standing Historically black towns.
Speaker 3:Wow, and she is she got the Smithsonian to come there.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she's phenomenal. So yeah, she's here Um okay. Yeah, she, she, she got the rodeo. She got the bid for the rodeo, so she will be. Y'all should come to Oklahoma. It's like the one of the biggest black rodeos.
Speaker 1:Is it? Is it bigger than a bill? Picket rodeo here, oh.
Speaker 3:No, I don't think it's it's. It's different. It's different. This one's a, that one's a lot more. It's amazing that one's a lot more organized. Okay, and again, I think this time around, like the way that she's about to do, it Is about nice. So, yeah, she has a. She built a community garden down there and body love, my towel is a sponsor for the Bullie, the town of Bollie in the Bully rodeo, so I just want to give a big shout out to that. But those are like the people that come to mind. I think Bree, the owner of black and blossom. She was hustling with me in those pop-ups.
Speaker 2:Yeah okay, yeah, I got a good, you got a little hit you up.
Speaker 3:I think Chloe, the owner of kawase, like a lot of, just like the local businesses Kuezi, that's, I think that's how you pronounce it, but just a lot of. Next, okay, actually, I forgot a huge person. I'm sorry, this is the last one. Netsy Netsy. She is a doctor now, but she's a holistic doctor and her her Specialty is Autism and she was able to. They told her that her son would be diapered and Now he's like top of his class and like basically dealing with like gut health and parasite cleansing and heavy metal. That's actually how we met and I think she would be an amazing person and especially like just people that look like us in the healing space, because there's not a lot of people that look like us and I'll give you guys that list, but I think those are like those are the people I surround myself with and they're just amazing Entrepreneurs and amazing people got it.
Speaker 2:Awesome. Well, thank you. Yeah. Well, first of all, shout out to the audience for coming by, and you never stumble upon the unexpected. Do y'all hear that? Where's that? Just me? No, no, anyway, you don't stumble. You never stumble upon the unexpected if you stick to the familiar. So you clenched, get cleansed, change your loofah out there, y'all. Okay, make sure you get rid of it.
Speaker 1:Thank you this, this, this podcast, bussing, bussing.
