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A podcast experience about friends sharing their views on society and culture. Hosted by Jay Cain, with Courtney Hysaw and Damion Wright. They have compelling stories, amazing guests, and more. Topics range from politics, music, sports, you name it they'll talk about it, but for the most part they like to have fun and laugh!
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#113 - "Queen of the Hill" (feat. Shae Kelley)
Jay and crew sit down and have an exhilarating conversation with WNBA champion and East High School alum, Shae Kelley. We journey through her life on and off the court, from her middle school days to the global stage of professional basketball. Relive the school days spent honing her skills and explore the vital friendships formed within the basketball fraternity. Interestingly, Shae also unpacks her unique perspective as a basketball vagabond, having traversed from one school to another during her career.
Many challenges await women in sports, and Shae's experiences are no exception. She will guide us through the highs and lows of her professional journey, shedding light on the mental and physical demands of playing basketball overseas. Get ready to empathize with the obstacles she faced, from language barriers to cultural differences and limited work opportunities. On a brighter note, Shae will also share the promising potential of Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) for women in sports, and how social media and supporter dedication are shaping the future of professional women's basketball.
Our conversation with Shae is a roller coaster of experiences. She opens up about the intersection of athleticism and appeal, the dynamics of NCAA games, and the influence of the overseas basketball market. Unveiling her dating experiences as a professional basketball player, Shae emphasizes the importance of having a supportive team and the need to stay focused on success. We'll also pay a heartfelt tribute to Nikki Weddle, a Denver basketball legend, greatly influential in Shae's career. So, tune in for an episode filled with insights, inspiring stories, and a journey through the life of a woman who is changing the face of basketball.
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Speaker 3:It's a nice Saturday. We got a beautiful audience. We got Jazz K-Tring, tisha Keys here on a Saturday, jalen Michael and my man from Africa What was it? We got a lot of people in the park, in the building, all the way from the motherland. That's what I'm talking about. That's talk to them, and we're going to talk about overseas, so North.
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Speaker 3:There we go, yeah, without further ado. So this special guest and I swear to y'all this ain't a Park Hill show, but it turns into a lot of people from Park Hill just doing big things. And the guest we got, this beautiful lady, is standing at 6'1" 6'1" Got game.
Speaker 4:Like a solid 6'1", No like eating soup off of Courtney's head 6'1".
Speaker 3:I'll let it too. shit. Yeah, east High School alum, right. What are we talking about? By way of Old Dominion, talk to them And North wait.
Speaker 2:Four of them. It's four of them. Get me right Minnesota.
Speaker 1:Minnesota.
Speaker 3:Minnesota.
Speaker 2:That was last.
Speaker 3:Northwest.
Speaker 2:That was second And ODU was third.
Speaker 3:What's the last one?
Speaker 2:First was CU. I want to see you at our high school CU.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:CU the Juco.
Speaker 2:Old Dominion Minnesota.
Speaker 3:Well, and then? champion and WNBA champion and doing big things overseas. Welcome Shay Kelly to the show, thank you. Thank you, glad to have you, glad to be here. It's been a while. It's been a long time coming. Yeah, because we tried to get you like two years ago. I think I tried to get you like two years when we were fresh.
Speaker 2:I am overseas.
Speaker 3:You was like, jay, i'm in Italy, i'll be back. Yeah, i can't do it right now.
Speaker 4:So another word she big time you.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm doing. No, no, she was just overseas.
Speaker 4:I'm in Italy, you peon.
Speaker 3:No, absolutely.
Speaker 4:Like I'm doing big things.
Speaker 2:I ain't doing like that now.
Speaker 3:She responding at 3 AM. You know what I mean 3 AM for us. She out there in the afternoon.
Speaker 2:But welcome to the show. That's good work, thank you. I'm glad to be here. I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 3:I'm happy to be here Real quick. I got to do this because we have a lot of interconnections as far as you growing up playing basketball 100%. Now this might be a sore subject. I'm going to take it back a little bit, so I'm taking it all the way back to middle school. Yeah, hamilton, smiley. Yeah, i used to battle it out. Smiley in the house, right, absolutely, coach Reggie. Look, coach Reggie. And my brother was the coach.
Speaker 2:Shout out to Reggie.
Speaker 3:Shout out to Reggie Hammons huh Shout out to Reggie Hammons. Yeah, absolutely Coach for George now, but smiley used to get you. I should be.
Speaker 2:We went to the ship. Y'all did go to the ship And I only had Emily Takamoto and it was G You did.
Speaker 3:It was only two of y'all And it was Graham. Yeah, it was Sam Siobhan White Jaden. Yep, it was. Yeah, y'all was outnumbered outgun. They had a squad.
Speaker 1:No we held it down We held it down.
Speaker 3:But that's at a young age, That's when, that's when I was introduced to you, Because it was like yo didn't know who you were, but it was like yo, this, this girl, it was you and the girl you just mentioned. I was like, oh, she can ball, Yeah. And you went to East, did you think?
Speaker 2:George first, then East. Did you go to George? Come on out, you, yeah, listen listen. I went to George my freshman year. Both my brothers went to George.
Speaker 3:Yes, my brother Dang. What school did you not go to? Yeah, yeah, yeah, i don't think that should be the question, Hey you're like a tour, you're like a basketball vagabond?
Speaker 2:No, but listen.
Speaker 4:I saw I went to George. That's funny, I went to here, yep.
Speaker 2:Then I went to. East. So George, i mean, i went to George, i went to George, i went to George, i went to George, i went to George.
Speaker 3:I went to George.
Speaker 2:I went to East. So, george, i mean East was the school for women.
Speaker 3:For girls basketball, yeah, i mean so Oh no for women. Patriots was the school? Talk to them. Patriots was the school to go to?
Speaker 2:For track and what else.
Speaker 3:For basketball.
Speaker 2:Basketball, hell no.
Speaker 3:For sports in general.
Speaker 2:For women? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:We back up now, we back up Talk to them.
Speaker 2:I ain't gonna lie now, but before. No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1:My Bella was a school for basketball. If you was a woman In my day, i was a kid with Nikki Wettel Yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, let's, let's copper do.
Speaker 4:He is the guy.
Speaker 3:We got a kid.
Speaker 2:Nikki on.
Speaker 4:That's my dog, do y'all know?
Speaker 2:she trained me. No that's being hers clothes, because she's a goat.
Speaker 1:She is a goat. I graduated. I graduated with Nikki Wettel.
Speaker 2:She's the only other woman who won it in DPS before us in 2020.
Speaker 1:By 20, by 30, damn near. Yeah, they went crazy?
Speaker 3:No, absolutely Her. Tiana Briggins the shooter.
Speaker 1:And they was ranked and they was ranked top 25 in the country.
Speaker 2:In the country Talk to them, talk to them, yeah, goats.
Speaker 3:Well, let's get back to you, because you're a goat yourself, you're a queen of Park Hill. And let's get into current events, because you've been doing big things, and what I mean by that is that you have revived summer league basketball in Denver. All right, you said well, as I was growing up, joint effort pro am shot out to John Bailey things I would say probably five years after that got kind of quiet, but then you pop up like three years ago, two, this is our second year, so literally one year ago last year.
Speaker 3:So let's talk about it, because you have revived summer basketball in Denver. You bringing out some names also. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Jimmer.
Speaker 3:Jimmer for that. Richard Jefferson, no, richard.
Speaker 2:Jason.
Speaker 3:Richardson.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:And his sons.
Speaker 1:And his sons.
Speaker 3:Like you're bringing that back. Tell us. Ag. Pulled up AG.
Speaker 2:I saw that Derek White. He didn't play, but he came to a game last year And he's supposedly on a team this year. We'll see if he comes to playoffs.
Speaker 3:So tell us why, like why did you think it needed to come back, or why were you the person?
Speaker 2:I grew up going to those games at Skyland because of John Bailey. You know what I'm saying. So that was literally like I'm waking up and you just knew where you was going that day. It's the summertime, we're going to Skyland. You didn't have to call No man, you know, we didn't have phones like that back then.
Speaker 3:No, absolutely No.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's 10. It's 11. Go to Skyland. We going to Skyland. I don't know what days the games was on, i don't remember.
Speaker 3:Usually like Saturday.
Speaker 2:Yeah, saturday, wednesday, saturday, so my sister's a green and she's like well, i'm working this table. Well, i'm like well, i'm finna hoop, and then I'm finna watch. You know what I'm saying. So, I was. I literally grew up watching those guys play like from the Freak Masons Daydays.
Speaker 3:Shout out to.
Speaker 2:Freaky.
Speaker 3:Masons Dayday.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Like those guys came in the gym and I'm just like Johnny Reese.
Speaker 3:Autumn Cat.
Speaker 2:And I'd be in the gym like yo. That's literally why I fell in love with the game, because I was at Skyland every single day I could be there. So I'm just like, damn, this shit is. This shit is crazy. You know what I'm saying? Like, and then Chauncey pulling up, pulling up from half court going crazy. Mellow pulled up And this is. we're just in a little gym in Park Hill on Holly, absolutely. So you telling me these guys is pulling up to this gym, is I don't know?
Speaker 1:I was not just in the gym, though 50 people in the gym, but it's not.
Speaker 4:It wasn't like it was packed out, though It's not like a gym with like stadiums.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not a.
Speaker 3:It's not built for that. No, absolutely.
Speaker 2:It's literally like the neighborhood people to community, just like yo we going to. We got games today, yeah, pulling up. So as a kid I saw that and I'm like yo, this shit, i don't know. It just inspired me and it made me fall in love with the game, because I grew up as a girl and my homeboys used to make me play with them. Oh, like no we understand like you're better than the girl, so you got to come play with us.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:And we'd like no, you're playing with us and they blocked my shot, They pushed me down and they made me better. So I credit a lot of my success or whatever you want to call it to like just being in the gym with my homeboys. You know what I mean And that was literally a cast like my inspiration.
Speaker 2:So once I saw that fast forward, that like the program fell off, nobody was doing anything about it, and of course I'm overseas, so I heard a lot of talk about it and it's just like, oh, we're going to bring it back, so somebody's going to bring it back. So I wasn't even thinking about the program at all because I'm overseas. I'm doing my thing, i'm on my journey. You know what I?
Speaker 3:mean Right.
Speaker 2:So they're like I'm going to bring the program back every summer. I'm like there's no program. What's going on Like why? Why ain't nobody start the program? What's up?
Speaker 1:Y'all tripping, y'all tripping.
Speaker 2:So literally last, last year I'm in uh, two years ago I'm in Italy. I don't even remember who it was. Somebody called me like yo, i think you should. you should bring the program back. Like you, literally the perfect person. Everybody fuck with you. Like all the fellas mess with you. You know what I'm saying. So you're literally the perfect person to bring it back And I was just like I'm going to do it, but say less. I literally called Chauncey, i called Rodney because I'm his big bros and I'm just like what y'all feel about me bringing the program back? Like how y'all feel about that. They're like go.
Speaker 2:We got you Like go, we got you What you need.
Speaker 3:And then from there it took off.
Speaker 2:And then we in year two.
Speaker 3:Well, tell us. So. Tell us a little about a little bit about how you took what you knew the program to be, the joint effort program. Now fast forward to your point You mentioned we didn't have cell phones, right, like we didn't have those things to kind of promote, it was just word of mouth, wearing T shirts. You know community. Now you got all these, the technology, and now that that's how a lot of people are catching it IG lives and things like that. Tell us how you're leveraging those tools in order to promote it, or what it does to the league.
Speaker 2:I mean it does great things to the league, but I hate that shit. I hate that shit, because I'm not that type and I literally do a lot like on my own. So I've literally built this from the ground up, and a lot of people don't understand how much work went into this and I'm overseas doing it, you know what I mean, right. I started it while I was overseas, so think about that.
Speaker 2:I don't even have, i'm not even home. I can't pull up on nobody like yo. I have to stay up till 4am. I got to stay up till 4am like making phone calls.
Speaker 3:I'm eight hours ahead Getting the schedule together like schedule together. Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Doing, doing literally like everything online Instagram I got to get the Instagram, i got to get the Twitter, i got to get the TikTok, i got a and then I got to call the homies. I'm like yo, i need help.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? Do you want to help? So it was just, it was just a lot like and for Instagram to be like what it is now.
Speaker 3:Yep, yeah.
Speaker 2:Literally, that's turned everything. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Oh, no, absolutely.
Speaker 2:We got like 2000 followers and we're in our second year. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2:And it's like I'm not. My vision is. I'm not even close to where I wanted to be, yet That's dope. Like not even a quarter of where I wanted to be. So it's just like, damn. So the Instagram and the social media is a huge thing now. So it was just like I hate that shit personally because I have to do it, but shout out to Josh J, Josh, Josh.
Speaker 4:We in that mode, you feel me.
Speaker 2:He's literally been holding me down. He comes to the games, he puts out these videos. These guys are getting.
Speaker 4:Credit. shout out to Josh, i might grow a big.
Speaker 2:I know you're doing the photography, but I need you, like Social media is what it is. So he was like just give me the password, i'm gonna start. He's posted shit on the Instagram, and that's when it kind of took off. We had a G there, monta, and that was the first year got it. So like social media is Is I mean I hate it but I love it at the same time, but that's what's gonna make us or break us.
Speaker 1:Yo. So it's crazy, you know, um, i've been going to the pro and for a long time, right, i've never seen a guy get 60.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hey, drake, shout out to you. Um, that video went viral.
Speaker 2:Balders like picked us up. I don't even know that. No, I saw it.
Speaker 1:I saw it. Okay, balders, i follow Balders life and they picked up the 60 point game. Yo, how did that feel for you.
Speaker 2:I was there, so I'm in a moment, so Like I'm doing everything but I also am working at the same time. Yeah, so I'm on live. You know I'm saying so. I'm on live trying to get because people like we won a live stream, so I'm trying to. You know I'm on live, but I'm seeing drago crazy, one leg, three Hezzy to the rim, lay like oh shit.
Speaker 4:Hey, she sound like uh flay Hezzy one leg three.
Speaker 3:I like the flavor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah you know I'm saying so as an athlete. I'm excited for him, so I'm on the side talking my shit. You know I'm saying like, yeah, drink on crazy, but for me it's just like. For me, what makes me feel good is that these guys Support me, because I'm nothing without them. You know I'm saying like if they didn't, they're like oh, we not finna pull up to your Leave, you know. Hey what. Not a plan is Lee. You know I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yep the fact that they like. No, we support you whatever you need. Like we don't care, fuck the jerseys we, we can wear pennies, i don't care what we got on. Like we, we, we wish you. You know, i'm saying so that for me.
Speaker 2:That's everything, because that means like They support me and they like they behind me, 100%, no matter what it takes. And they're like it's the second year, don't trip. I'm stressing out. I'm calling Dom, call your like yo. You got to come try these jerseys on. I don't think they're right. Shorts ain't right, he's like I'ma pull up. He literally came over to try to judge. you know, he's like They sure they cool, yeah, if they got a cunt and they just gonna cut them. Oh well, like we good, like we just hear the hoot.
Speaker 2:So the fact that they support me. That literally means everything to me in the world.
Speaker 3:Yeah, shout out to the supporters.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and it like for the uniforms because y'all have like the little 1990 joints below the me baggy jerseys.
Speaker 2:No, what's crazy, but my first year I had an overseas vendor.
Speaker 4:Oh.
Speaker 1:It is different Pakistan, Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:Pakistan, so Cheap my homeboy overseas like. and this is all the basketball world. This is the connections you make overseas like my homeboys like yo, i got somebody you can get you some shit for the low.
Speaker 3:I'm like who, I need them and you talk about jerseys that are like authentic jerseys, like nice pennies. No, they wasn't nice, okay, got it, got it Okay.
Speaker 2:The whole thing with that I had that was like the struggle I had last year was I literally the jerseys were not made, so he literally just sent me the shirts because he wanted to charge me extra. I said I don't got that type of money. I didn't have no sponsors, i didn't have shit, it's just me.
Speaker 1:I literally came out my own pocket for like came out my own pocket, my overseas money.
Speaker 4:That's gonna put racks down Just to get the jerseys for these guys.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying, Because I had a vision on and I'm gonna make it do what it do so.
Speaker 3:Well, they're lucky, they got jerseys, because we were like t-shirts.
Speaker 2:Hello, hey, join in for t-shirts and we was happy Like that's what we was good.
Speaker 3:We was good.
Speaker 2:We got t-shirts. Yeah, cool, Absolutely they had some jerseys with their names on the front and numbers, So they was like this is cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I just been trying to make it happen, make my vision. I have a vision and it's it's not complete, but I know it's gonna take time. Tell us it.
Speaker 4:Tell us your vision.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, that's not proprietary. Um Julie Bronson Lee.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Why you think I got an mc Blake. Shout out to my. Shout out to Blake. Shout out to my brother.
Speaker 3:Hey Kelly, absolutely I want My whole vision.
Speaker 2:I need butts in the seats. That's what's up and I know we're Denver and I know we're not new york and I know we're not maryland and I know we're not la. We have no no off the way But we can get there. You know, i'm saying because we have great Hoopers here and they're so overlooked. And I hate that about Denver because we actually got some, because that could who you know?
Speaker 3:I'm saying absolutely So.
Speaker 2:It's just like this is a platform for them and it doesn't matter Where we starting from. But that's my vision, like I want us to be, like You know what I mean Like all his life. ESPN Went crazy to crowd. You know what I'm saying. I want that for us.
Speaker 4:So when I, when I hear you talk Because I like straight up, i don't know too much about What's that- good. Yeah, i'm just not a hooper So I don't know that much, but like when I hear you, i look like a hooper though.
Speaker 1:I.
Speaker 4:Know so you know what I will talk when I hear you. You talk and like, i Think about, like a big vision. It's no different than ice cube had. Like you're like the woman, i three. Hello, yeah, like seriously, when I hear that, that's what I hear you could take it there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so she, so she, I think for me. Now I'm put your spot a little bit- Yeah. Who's your favorite player right now? Mm-hmm, i don't mind it in the 303, in the whole three, only in my league. Yeah, in your league Who's your favorite? I'm gonna say mine.
Speaker 3:Do you have one, though You do, then you got a favorite player. Yeah, I mean the phone a.
Speaker 1:The phone gets put up when he's playing Phone, goes watching like you're just. You're just in the moment.
Speaker 2:I mean, I hope with all of them. So I'm never gonna do that because I'm a competitor. So when they out there, I'm popping my shit too, like why you miss that left Here, nigga you know, it's not like I'm putting my phone up. Oh my god, he's playing like nine doing that.
Speaker 1:I put my phone. I mean, listen, a freaky mace, jermaine Mason.
Speaker 2:Listen, I'm.
Speaker 1:G. No, but I put my phone down, i'm watching he's all G, so I love, i love, free.
Speaker 3:I think your security guard wants you.
Speaker 2:So, Whatever, what's my driving?
Speaker 4:Yeah, what's the driving motivation to keep it going.
Speaker 2:Are you saying I'm old and I'm still?
Speaker 3:Well, let's hold that, we're gonna get into that. We go get into that, they're gonna get into it. So let's talk about your hoop career. So you've been doing great things for others. When it comes to who, let's talk about you and the compliments Accomplishments you've had. Right, so, right now, balling overseas you were in Italy, now you're in Egypt. Like, take us through. We'll talk about the WNBA, but take us through. Like your experiences With that being overseas at a very high level.
Speaker 2:We're going to start, Yeah let's start in Italy. Like the things you were doing out there and the things you Italy was probably one of my best seasons Mmm, close to one of my best seasons I've had overseas. I've been doing this for eight years. I'm going on nine next year, i don't know. I was just in a different mode last year or two years ago and I was like top three and rebounds, top five and scoring. I Led my team in every category Assist. I ain't no point guard now but, i, am like you know, i'm like a little.
Speaker 3:Like how she said that.
Speaker 2:I'm very versatile. That's what makes me like, that's why I keep a job. But um, I Don't know. Overseas is different in his heart. It's not for everybody.
Speaker 4:What? what makes it hard?
Speaker 2:What you mean. I'm missing my, i'm missing Christmas, i'm missing Thanksgiving, i'm missing my niece's birthday, my nephew's birthday, i'm missing my mom's birthday. I miss my dad's. I miss everything. I'm literally missing everything. So it's just hard because you have to be mentally strong, you know I mean. So it's like I'm overseas and If you're not mentally strong, you're not gonna make it. And it's not for everybody. I seen girls like come overseas and play, yes, and they leave after like a month, two months, because there's no family, no family is you and another American you've made or may not have ever met.
Speaker 2:Y'all on the same team is either two to three Americans, depending which country you're in.
Speaker 3:Yeah room.
Speaker 2:Sometimes you have roommates. I'm a vet now I need my own place. But yeah, you have roommates. It's just a lot. And then the language bear. Sometimes your coach literally love it basketball. What do you say? Get you the ball, like, okay, yeah, but it's a language barrier, it's just a lot that comes with it and it's not for everybody and everybody's like oh, you're so blessed, you get a sightseeing shit. But it's not like that. I wake up, i go to practice. Sometimes you have, you're working two days.
Speaker 2:Yeah wake up, go to practice, come home, eat. Maybe, if you got to go to the grocery store, take a nap, go back to practice. No groupie, yeah, yeah, i want to know.
Speaker 4:Who's turning the man out or who's getting. I need to know both sides that's funny.
Speaker 2:Ain't no work.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:No work Ain't no work. Like if I wanted to depend on where I'm at, i could. But that I'm not with that and that's not my personal preference.
Speaker 1:Hey so.
Speaker 2:Obviously it's the overseas guy, So the other Americans that be over there.
Speaker 4:So yeah, i mean, is real, yep Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's so many like American men, american women over there right. Yeah, there's some work And but it's not how she say that work.
Speaker 3:Like, are they? Cool Shit, y'all just start messing with each other, cuz it's like Stockholm syndrome. It's just me and you girl Got it.
Speaker 2:But that's literally how it is. I mean, sometimes you meet whatever it happens, but it's a roman stone.
Speaker 4:What I've been seeing.
Speaker 2:Like it for you know I've been single for like four years. I was in a relationship for a long time.
Speaker 4:like you are rolling stone, say now That's that's what's implied.
Speaker 2:I am not a rolling stone, say is out here.
Speaker 3:Don't be trying to put that on her. As my lawyer, don't be trying to put that on her. Oh no, she's.
Speaker 2:Girl phase.
Speaker 3:I see your grand stories now. You be outside, you be outside, you and the Navy outside. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, i mean Shaby out there.
Speaker 4:Hey, she fooling y'all. She know Egyptian She know, Italians Hey, you know all these languages. you out there turning them boys out.
Speaker 2:I'm not turning them out. I promise y'all I'll be overseas, i'll focus, i hope I'll get my number.
Speaker 3:But let's talk about that, because I do things.
Speaker 4:I just say you turn them out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I think They might be turned out. That's fine. Exactly, i ain't turned on, but they know, but they know.
Speaker 3:Got a point though, because like, and we're going to get into the I think this is the T right here like the way basketball and is supported overseas is a lot different than it is at home, 100% Right. So it's like you're getting fans, all genders, going out there right To see you play. Like it's a big thing.
Speaker 2:Like so Uh-uh, no You got to twist it, Oh no.
Speaker 3:Oh, no, oh, tell us.
Speaker 2:Absolutely not. Sometimes it'd be four people in a gym.
Speaker 3:What you mean Really.
Speaker 2:I was in France, packed out Israel. Eight people 10 people, 20 people.
Speaker 1:Just talk about it.
Speaker 2:All like the Israelis family. You know what I mean. So I was in Egypt. It's four. Well, they stopped letting fans come because somebody like failed from the root.
Speaker 4:There's some shit going on, but they stopped letting fans come to the game.
Speaker 2:Oh, infrastructure, yeah, but depending on the country, literally depending on the country and where you're at. sometimes it's a lot of fans, Sometimes it's no fans. So you could be in a country and you're playing games and it's like a scrimmage because there's 12 people in there.
Speaker 4:Oh, like you're playing in the bubble. Like you're playing in the bubble, yeah, swear to God.
Speaker 2:So France we packed out, Orini packed out. But that was my team. I was in the Euro Cup League So we had like a lot of fans, Small city fans, come Israel. You're not getting like that. You can maybe one or two teams have like decent fans, but it's not. It's never packed out.
Speaker 4:Hey, I heard if you take a wrong turn in Israel, it's bad news. Is that true?
Speaker 2:It depends where you are and if they shooting rockets, that's what.
Speaker 4:I'm saying They didn't fucking like We should literally yo, what was that?
Speaker 2:Four years ago I left like three days before they was. They was at war and my homegirls was there. They had to go into the bunker.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I bet They were shooting. That was rockets Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, so, so, shay, so with that, so, on that note, on that note what you put the weed in your bag.
Speaker 3:What.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, that's what he's saying.
Speaker 3:Where'd you put the weed in your bag?
Speaker 2:Would I.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:Put the weed in my bag.
Speaker 4:You talking about.
Speaker 2:Brittany, i know what he's talking about, she know, she know I'm not doing all that And I'm going to plead the fifth because I don't know what y'all talking about. I don't know what y'all talking about. Wee, wee.
Speaker 1:I ain't bringing shit to. I'm on stay side.
Speaker 2:I ain't going to lie. I could tell y'all, but it got to be all camera. I ain't going to tell y'all, right now.
Speaker 3:No, i'm going to put that kind of pressure on you.
Speaker 4:Hey, that thing be right between the booty cheeks.
Speaker 2:No, i've never personally like brought anything though. No, absolutely not. I'll be scared. I ain't going to lie, i'm scared.
Speaker 3:I ain't going to raise you Like if it was between his booty cheeks that'd be a whole pound. That'd be a pound Like I could move some weight in them, booty cheeks Bro.
Speaker 1:I'm going to put a quarter key.
Speaker 4:What Hey? I'll be pushing weight.
Speaker 1:I'm pushing weight in them cheeks bro, and that would be a perfect little mule.
Speaker 3:That boy be a Clis deal.
Speaker 4:How does it look?
Speaker 3:there. Well on that, on that I want to get your thoughts about.
Speaker 1:I'm wasting the Clis deal, oh For For.
Speaker 4:The funny part about his Clis deal is booty cheeks, don't even touch.
Speaker 3:I'll start. I'll start. Sorry, oh man, i was going to ask you.
Speaker 4:Oh shit killer, You got my stuff.
Speaker 3:That was a tough job. Oh So. I'd have to wait for Ed Heiser, but I'll swear we're going to get to the point, Oh shit.
Speaker 4:Oh shit, i promise, oh God, all right.
Speaker 3:In all seriousness this is another ladies part of, because I'm glad you're on, but we got a lot of ladies in the audience I want to get your opinion about women's sports and support as far as equal pay when it comes to your salary. So I think with the WNBA Let's let me ask you this What do you think there are ways that people can support in order to make sure that women don't have to go overseas, be able to play at home in order to make a living for themselves without working extra jobs, etc. Like, how do you feel about that And what do you think we can do?
Speaker 2:Who is we? What do you mean by?
Speaker 3:I'm seeing like just we as the American people as the people as the people as the go to the games and pay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i mean I?
Speaker 3:as simple as that, Honestly, we have to expand.
Speaker 2:Wnba has to expand. How many teams are there?
Speaker 3:12 teams 144 girls.
Speaker 2:Are you kidding me? Yeah, that's crazy Okay 12 spots per team And sometimes they don't even feel the roster It'd be 11, 10. Wow.
Speaker 3:So do you think that is on ownership or the way the games play?
Speaker 4:I think it has to do with society. I'm out of shape. Yeah, my bad, yep.
Speaker 2:We're going to interview you, buddy, we got you Hey what you want to say, clive'sdale.
Speaker 1:Clive'sdale. It's going to be that Clive'sdale over there.
Speaker 3:I was saying as far as how we can expand the game and bring money to it. Okay, so do you think it's the responsibility? of course it's responsibility or ownership in the WNBA, but do you think it starts with investing first or do you think it's the talent and the way the games play?
Speaker 2:No, it's not the talent, absolutely not, because look at college. Look how many people go to college games.
Speaker 3:Yes, okay, talk about it, and it's like we packed out What you mean.
Speaker 2:It's like 2,000 people in a whoever.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:But college games be packed. So why are you telling me we, coming from college, the arena's packed.
Speaker 3:You ready.
Speaker 2:We go to WNBA 500 people, because none of them girls from college went to the WNBA, but maybe one. Those people aren't following. They're not following, they're not going like oh, we need to, and also there's no WNBA team in their college town.
Speaker 4:Or even in proximity. It's really hard In proximity.
Speaker 2:They're like well, where do we watch? Can we go to a game? No, you got to watch five states. You got to fly across the country just to go to a game, to watch the girl that you watched for four years in college.
Speaker 3:Got it, got it.
Speaker 2:And then also, maybe only one of them made it to the WNBA. Because there's no space, because we haven't expanded. Yeah, that's a really good point, that is.
Speaker 4:And so Reese, and I'm sorry, what's the other girl's name from LSU? Which one The freshman?
Speaker 2:Float Yeah, float, float Yeah.
Speaker 4:So it's very clear they changed the game 100%. And I was watching the Pivot podcast and they were on there and they were like hey, so you know what about the WNBA? And they were like yo, they were like nope, nil.
Speaker 2:Hello, thank you, they are getting NIL loaded. All would have stayed in college.
Speaker 4:A hundred years, No they said they said they'll make more money in NIL money than they would in WNBA By far.
Speaker 3:By far. That's crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:They were like we ain't even tripping And no girl, right Yeah.
Speaker 4:And she blew up because of that right. So it's so interesting the dynamic on like how NIL plays into women's professional sports Because, like a dude would be like, oh, i'm a junior, i'm out, i'm going to the league.
Speaker 2:I'm going to the league And they're like crazy money, Absolutely.
Speaker 4:And then Reese is like look. I'm saying at this point in time she was getting pride about let's call it two mil NIL money. It's ass backwards.
Speaker 1:Yeah, It's ass backwards for us. This podcast Literally ass backwards.
Speaker 2:Oh I'm going to stay in college because I'm making two mil. I go to WNBA. I'm going to make $45,000.
Speaker 3:Minimum. Like what? That's crazy. I'm going to make what?
Speaker 2:It's just a pen. Do y'all want to know my salary for my rookie season?
Speaker 3:Let's hear it Hell. No, i was out here playing for free.
Speaker 2:It wasn't shit. It wasn't shit Yeah.
Speaker 1:I got, so let me ask you this. So we had this conversation.
Speaker 4:We can look up your salary. by the way, Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you can. Really I don't think, i don't.
Speaker 3:I tried to. I was pocket watching.
Speaker 2:I was like how much you make? They put my shit up there because y'all know I got cut and then they brought me back.
Speaker 3:They did Yeah, yeah, in 2015.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they brought me back, so I don't think my shit was like Got it Labeled. That's cool. My bad thoughts.
Speaker 1:We're on the stage of this podcast, right? We had this conversation in terms of what would expand and what would make males lock into the WNBA or women's basketball, right, and we talked about Lori Narell.
Speaker 4:We talked about making And that was a woman who said that. By the way, it was a woman who said Yes, yes And the girl who's?
Speaker 1:not, yes, she played. Grace played basketball Overland. You know what she did? So Grace played basketball. She said you know it's a simple fix As a woman, if they shrunk the court and lowered the basket, they lowered the rims. People would come, because people want to see the alley-oops, People want to see women win milling. So how do you feel about that?
Speaker 2:I'm mixed. I'm mixed with it.
Speaker 1:Okay, let's talk about it.
Speaker 2:I get it, but it's okay, we lowered the rims. Say we lowered the rims.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:Did you expand Or you still got 12 teams? I don't know.
Speaker 4:I think so. To her point, she said it brings more excitement.
Speaker 2:That's a good point.
Speaker 4:Excitement leads to more engagement, which leads to expansion.
Speaker 2:Yes, okay, i get that, but all right, load of rims, i still. I just feel like men don't watch women's basketball, i agree.
Speaker 3:Okay, i was waiting for that. I was waiting for that.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to say all men. I'm going to say much more.
Speaker 3:Why ain't women watching women's basketball?
Speaker 2:Can I be honest? I really think that.
Speaker 3:Because women drive a lot, they own a lot of economy. As far as what pushes the envelope Like fashion, That's a fact.
Speaker 1:That's a fact.
Speaker 3:They turn to television. But you know music, things like that, Like why aren't the women going to see women?
Speaker 2:play. Can I tell you why? Yes, because women like niggas.
Speaker 3:What do we say? Think about it.
Speaker 2:You think things on the internet. Think about you think they go into a game to watch a bunch of girls. They're not going.
Speaker 3:Do y'all watch Serena play?
Speaker 2:Absolutely 100%.
Speaker 3:But I'm not saying it's not.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying it's a bigger percentage. The percentage is bigger.
Speaker 3:So do you think more women watch Serena or men watch Serena?
Speaker 2:As far as women's tennis That's a good question. Women's tennis Who watches Serena more?
Speaker 3:No, who watches women's tennis? more Women or men?
Speaker 2:Men I don't think men, Oh yeah, Men 100%.
Speaker 3:You think so? I don't think so Absolutely.
Speaker 2:You don't think so. Can you Google this Siri?
Speaker 3:I'll Google it. I just don't think so That was on the fact, but I don't think so.
Speaker 2:Can one of y'all Google that? Yes, somebody Google that.
Speaker 3:But I mean, while that's happening, I think.
Speaker 2:Who watches Serena more, men or women?
Speaker 3:Who watches women's tennis? I don't watch Serena Women's tennis Because men do watch Serena more than women. That's what I'm saying. Serena they don't watch.
Speaker 1:Offer the wrong reasons though. Well that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:But they don't even matter. It doesn't matter. Why do you think they're tuning in though Co?
Speaker 2:They're tuning in Women's tennis Bam.
Speaker 3:This year More people watch that Because okay, what was they doing, though? What did they let us?
Speaker 2:do They let us chirp?
Speaker 3:That's true, they don't let us chirp.
Speaker 2:And my thing is this, and this is what I hated we use I used to talk so much shit on the court, but we didn't have social media.
Speaker 3:Talk to them. See, they all use talking. I used to be asked God to try to dunk.
Speaker 2:Hello, but did y'all know? No, because I'm not on social media. We didn't have that shit, so think about it. The day and age is different.
Speaker 4:No wait, you had it, We didn't have it.
Speaker 2:No. I'm in a generation where it was like not, and then it was. So, like I'm in between. So, when I was growing up, we still had the little flip phones, the Razors and shit. We not recording shit in the gym, you know what I mean? So we didn't have that, we didn't have the Instagram, we just had my space.
Speaker 1:So, shay, if we could come down and windmill that.
Speaker 2:I'm dunking on everybody.
Speaker 1:Well, let's talk about. I'm talking about you could come down and just do some LeBron shit.
Speaker 3:Well, there ain't no one to do that. No, no.
Speaker 1:If they lowered the rims.
Speaker 3:Even if they lowered the rim? I don't think that would happen. But let's talk about what happened. You think it will If they.
Speaker 2:I'm not gonna lie, our rims are like eight feet. I'm trying to dunk every time down the court. Well, i mean, that's a different game, though, but also, I don't know if that's still gonna bring the awareness or the expansion.
Speaker 3:Yes, so I like what Jazz is saying, because with NCAA this year, with LSU and Iowa State, Iowa, iowa. Let's talk about the dynamics of that entire thing. Right, that was like? First of all, it was like bird and magic as far as white versus black. White hope, you know, trying to beat LSU. You got Angel Reese, you got Kate. What's the? I forget the white girls name is.
Speaker 4:She can ball Caitlin, caitlin.
Speaker 3:But you have a story and you have the drama there that people want to tune into like the casual fan. If they're not watching for basketball, they're gonna watch LeBron and them. But if you have a story, then that's how you get people in the seats, that's how you get the ratings and things like that, and I think that goes to your point that I wasn't even thinking about. Yeah, expand, invest in these girls that are in the NCAA, pick them up, draft them. People are gonna follow them. Just like the NBA right, just like yeah.
Speaker 2:There's such a huge following of women in college. Yeah, but there's no WMA team teams in these college towns. So, Minnesota, minnesota links. Minnesota links have like one of the top maybe two fans because It's in the same city, Absolutely.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know I mean. so What I think about, like with the, with the college game. You know there was a ton of respect between those two girls too, Oh no absolutely. I'm not trying to say No, yeah, no it was a ton of respect, but They were balling too. I think that's. That's the big difference, like Iowa was balling and LSU was balling to see this come to a head. Like South Carolina got put out. They were the they were the name was the favorite.
Speaker 2:That's what.
Speaker 4:I'm saying It's really like who's LSU, who's Iowa? And then these two girls clash like the best of the best, like I think that's what part of the hype was too, and then the shit talking came Like when it came to a head. you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 4:And that's what he made it even more exciting, Man. So what's?
Speaker 1:crazy. So what's so? shade You As an athlete, right, because guys don't really have to do this. Do you feel a pressure to be sexy in order to be marketable? I Think that's personally.
Speaker 2:Are you asking me personally?
Speaker 1:No, no, personally, like honestly, personally Do I have?
Speaker 2:to know I Mean, i mean what you mean. In which market man? No, because they were overseas. Both, both Yeah, do I feel a pressure to be sexy, to be marketable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you know, like in hip hop you can be a pure, you can be a dope ass lyricist as a female, but at some point you hit you need an image. You need an image and you know sex sales.
Speaker 1:Right and so do you feel as an athlete? They say like yo, i might have to put on X, y and Z in order to get the type of exposure that I want to get. Or Can I just be a straight hooper and just live off my Physical talents as a basketball player rather than what I look on the exterior?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and let's be real.
Speaker 4:So the question is are you wearing booty shorts in Italy? I?
Speaker 2:Mean, i think. I wear nothing in Italy so listen, i think this day in age has, like back in the day, we didn't give up In our day, matter in our day, let it go.
Speaker 1:No, no, just real quick in our day. No, like the perception of bad of women in basketball different from now 100%.
Speaker 2:Now it's like yeah, you like, let me get the small. I need small shorts.
Speaker 4:I need I need a small shirt.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Overseas is not even like okay, they're gonna put us on the little poster or shit, but Overseas is like marketable. Wba is more so, more so, absolutely. Even from when I was a rookie till like now, you see girls like Yes, i hundred fucking percent so I gotta.
Speaker 3:That's why I bring it back to tennis. So if you talk about tennis, i'm looking at the ladies to tennis volleyball. I Don't know any others, but There is a sexy aspect to it. Like there's tennis players that aren't even good. I mean they're good because everybody at that level is good, but some get more notoriety off of being a model then they actually do on their play.
Speaker 2:Social media Yeah, what do you think change everything? social media How you look Oh she damn, she fine, so we gonna follow her. She could be trash Yeah, let's talk about it. How many WBA girls is because of their image or whatever? Somebody might come in and be a doll, but they're not gonna market her and they're not gonna keep her because she's not marketable the sex appeal right The sex appeal or whatever is gonna bring fans, we're gonna keep her.
Speaker 2:Because she's marketable, because she looks good, the men like her. We got to keep her.
Speaker 3:That reminds me of the girl that's Australian, like six, five Oh. Yeah, I think she got a only fans. Now to Elizabeth came. Yeah, there you go, like I'll be looking for I don't know her game.
Speaker 2:She left the league for a couple years, i think last. She was in Israel last year. But she didn't play in the league after Vegas Because the league is they gotta get her back then very political y'all really, and that's why people keep asking me, like why You go back to the league. I ain't got some, i ain't.
Speaker 3:I don't get down like that, yeah so then if the league does start to do that, let's say they start wearing the volleyball shorts. That's not gonna happen, why not?
Speaker 2:because how many studs are in the league? Let's talk about it. They're not wearing booty shorts, and they're not, and that is my homegirls, and they'll, and they'll say the same shit We're not putting on no booty shorts.
Speaker 3:Just not doing it.
Speaker 2:I'm who I am and y'all not finna disrespect me and make me wear No booty shorts. I'm not mad at that and that's cool and they stand on that, but but also at the same time, on the other hand, that's why a lot of men don't watch, and I think that's why a lot of me.
Speaker 1:Don't watch, and that's what I'm saying. Shay, that's an ill position of being as an athlete, 100% for a person like you that says look, my why is because I just wanted to hoop. And and now I'm in a position where I'm at a professional level where I can make money, where I can actually feed my family and take care of Myself. But I'm in this vicarious position of being sexy But then also being able to hoop right. But then if I'm a sexy and I'm below average hooper, i can have a long-lasting career in the league because I'm visible.
Speaker 4:Because I'm visible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's. That has to be a very tough space to sit in because, like as a male, i could say you know what I Could be like Kobe, that's one hoop, i'm gonna fuck. I'm gonna fuck about being sexy, i don't care about being marketable. Right my game can speak for me, and then what the media would say is he's just driven.
Speaker 3:He don't get that. He just like dog.
Speaker 1:He's just a nasty, he just, he just cares so much, he just cares so much about basketball right Like take yourself like.
Speaker 3:You got the tight booty shorts on this like riding up Like you could have been like a regular potter, but she was like nah, i gotta come in here show my meat. All right, shay, we're gonna play a game real quick, called this or that. That. You ready for that? So, co, you want to explain the?
Speaker 1:rules, hey, so you know it's no right or wrong answer, but no, but you can't give no context. Every once in a while, we, you know, we let it slide a little bit, you know, i mean, but it's no consequences, though, it's not like we're gonna be, you put a pie in your face or drink anything But but you know just for shits and giggles, no context.
Speaker 2:All right, here we go.
Speaker 4:This and you have the option to pass. you do have a option to pass.
Speaker 3:Yes, All right this or that. Here we go, fairfax or the Holly Holly Congress Park or city park city. All right. You can at least have silverman silverman, there you go, the crown market. Nobody's picking a Congress Park. I was thinking. At least I don't know where y'all hang out at East.
Speaker 2:You should have said something else Quebec Park something. Got a fuller park, anything but Congress.
Speaker 1:Ponytails are hella short. All right, here we go.
Speaker 3:Italy or Egypt. Okay, deanna Tarrasi or Tamika Ketchings.
Speaker 1:It's a time of the goats.
Speaker 2:Whoa, whoa, whoa pass, absolutely pass really okay, they both go. okay, i never choose it.
Speaker 3:Mya Moore or Cynthia Cooper. I'm sorry, cynthia Cooper Houston comments.
Speaker 2:I know, i know who Cynthia Cooper is she? she coached me before Vegas joint. But um Can I give, I can't get.
Speaker 3:No no, no context.
Speaker 2:Gotta go it, my it cuz I, that's my teammate.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay I figured. I said, i said that scoring ability or elite playmaking skills.
Speaker 2:That's the same thing. Talk to them, okay, you scoring ability or playmaking skills is the same.
Speaker 3:Well, i think, like, would you rather assist, like, would you rather be yokas or you trying to be? give me a killer out there, booker.
Speaker 2:Hmm, so that's something to hold really different.
Speaker 3:Okay, so score or assist, Yeah, yeah, which one you going with?
Speaker 2:score score.
Speaker 3:All right, three ball or Duncan.
Speaker 2:Don't gotta catch a body.
Speaker 1:Because body a for real.
Speaker 3:All right, here we go Old Dominion or Minnesota.
Speaker 4:Thanks drink, thanks drink.
Speaker 2:Then I'm gonna throw a big one in here Minnesota.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's so hard, because, oh, do you, i can't give no context. You're here for it, like have that same ready like I am ready, so I'm passing.
Speaker 3:But you a score, you assisted now what you mean.
Speaker 2:Don't play me. Look my stats up now. All right, I'm a buggy.
Speaker 3:Dang, i'm gonna put you on the spot. You got one. Why don't you go first?
Speaker 4:Don Staley or Kim Moki.
Speaker 2:Mmm Don Don, alright, i mess with them.
Speaker 3:We gonna see where your legions lie. This is some real stuff right here. Denise Simone, or big Bailey? Oh No, big, big, my sister. That's it on every day of the week and twice on Sundays them as locals, them as local R&B singers and yeah, then they were going with you. Thank you for playing. Absolutely What do you have? one co.
Speaker 4:Great hot seat, All right so she'd be allowed to give context now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, why don't you give some context on something? let the old Dominion and Minnesota, yeah.
Speaker 2:So Odu was so shout out to Adrian Gussin. The only reason I went to Odu, she played in the W&B. She's literally like a mentor. To me. Odu was like I Don't know how to explain it, but that's like wearing my career ticket turn. But it was like, oh, she's been major, she can't do this, she can't do that. Da, da, da, da. Then somebody famous hated on me. We ain't gonna get in the names. Actually, yes, we are Nancy Lieberman. What's good? You hate it on me because I left Odu and that's fine and I'm still doing it. I'm going into year nine. I got a ship, i got a WMA championship, i got a Egypt championship, i got scoring titles.
Speaker 2:I'm a walkie-buckie, talky shit. My journey, my journey has been I've always been like the underdog She can't shoot, she can't do this, she can't. I've always heard she can't yeah right She's this, but she can't do this. She's this, but she can't. Oh, we don't want her cuz she can't Okay.
Speaker 4:Fucking thing else.
Speaker 2:So what are we talking about? We really talking about you want to shoot her, you want to score, you want somebody who do everything, or you want shorty Standing in the corner and shoot a three. But if I'm daughter she's not getting that shit off.
Speaker 3:Hey, we gonna clip that up.
Speaker 4:I was a dark horse too.
Speaker 3:I knew you was gonna say that. Oh, they know he's trying to step on what you just did.
Speaker 4:No, i was a dark horse to, i was underdog.
Speaker 3:You were a mid major.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I wouldn't even admit major I was major and then I went pro and I did too.
Speaker 3:You played overseas in a couple weeks two weeks on the practice squad.
Speaker 2:And everybody's journey is different. I embrace my journey, i love my journey and I wouldn't be anything without my job And I respect that's what I was saying right on, yeah man.
Speaker 1:So shame I gotta. I just gotta ask shade this man Cuz? I remember one time I was in Houston.
Speaker 2:Shout out to who's all this is out there.
Speaker 4:Hey, she got that energy out. I'm back home.
Speaker 1:Hey, hey, hey, but I'm in Windsor, caught around now. Let's not talk about I'm inside, y'all, please. And Yo, this was that. This was Candice Parker at her height, right and this shout out the canis goat. Yo, and I think it's the first time I ever seen dudes like being like groupies 100% so here's my, here's my question. So how does a guy approach a perfect uh when woman professional basketball?
Speaker 2:well, first of all, you don't start off with saying I want to play you One-on-one.
Speaker 4:Okay, okay, and that's probably what I would do.
Speaker 2:What's the worst, what's the worst line you heard bet you can't beat me one-on-one every day of my life.
Speaker 4:See, i would say, I can post you up. That's what I was saying.
Speaker 2:I hate that as well. That's the top two.
Speaker 1:What if you said post me up that's top three.
Speaker 3:They be trying to have loving basketball with you all day.
Speaker 2:Huh You'd be like three tequila's in at the club, somebody coming to you like, oh you, whoop huh, you're right, i cannot in this club right now.
Speaker 4:I cannot post you and I don't want you up. Hey, I'll be like, will you please post me up?
Speaker 2:So, But so what is is is dating hard for you dating is very hard for me, so, oh, we talk about dating talk about it.
Speaker 3:Is it a height requirement? I mean let's get to this.
Speaker 2:It's hard to date because I'm always going so Let's talk about it. I wasn't a relationship for like eight years and like he was overseas with me back and forth, but it just didn't work out. But now, like dating is so it's so hard because it's like, okay, you're home, say I'm dating somebody, say I'm talking to somebody, endeavor. Yeah it's hard because it's like oh you finna leave Okay.
Speaker 3:What if you say I'm going, but now I'm?
Speaker 2:at. I'm like at the end of my career. I think personally because my knees hurt right now. But uh, It's just like you're gonna be gone for eight months and I might come home once during those eight months. So it's just like Niggas ain't going for that. I need my girl with me, you know what if you come out there with you?
Speaker 3:What if we follow you?
Speaker 2:I would love that, but every who really where yet?
Speaker 3:Where yet, Oh yeah, I got you.
Speaker 2:I'm with you regardless and that's cool. You know I mean so, someone who understands my life so and understands that's not gonna last forever. Yeah, so dating is very difficult, and it's difficult even when you're overseas, like I've tried dating guys that have been overseas with me.
Speaker 1:So you're in it for a short time, not a long time what basketball? no, but you just said is he has to understand it's not gonna last forever, oh. Oh so you've been overseas, or the situation that's gonna last forever.
Speaker 2:Yeah me being overseas long distance, and every long distance isn't for everybody.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying you're sad, i'm not saying you're a savage. I thought you was going there telling them like look, i'm here for a short time.
Speaker 2:You know this everybody's not built for long distance relationship you know what I mean. So it's just like it's hard for me to find someone who was like I Fuck with you enough to like yeah, especially meeting them in a short time, right, but you have for me, like my mental is, like I can do it because I've been doing it, but for them, they don't know that lifestyle, they don't understand my lifestyle. Wow.
Speaker 2:And they don't understand, i'm gonna be going, i'm gonna be back, but I also get your fucking passport so you could come see me.
Speaker 4:Yeah, real talk and get your paper Right. Get your paper right get your passport right.
Speaker 2:Come see me and we Gucci. Yeah so I'm too over that shit Flying who out.
Speaker 4:Can't get flew down.
Speaker 2:I'm not flying on nigga nowhere, Okay okay.
Speaker 4:Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Okay, go ahead. So you talked about lady athlete say flew you old, feeling old.
Speaker 4:We had this conversation last week. Can you get out that chair with no momentum?
Speaker 2:What you mean by that. You like yeah, you can't rock.
Speaker 4:We had this conversation last week and it's like watch demo Yeah we all gonna get up.
Speaker 3:That's why Tisha got Tisha. I know you're trying to work with him.
Speaker 2:That's all we were talking about it because I'm not gonna lie, i hope this morning in my my left knee right now hurts right now.
Speaker 4:Yes, so can you get about that chair without swinging your arm? No no, you ain't you a guest?
Speaker 3:No we're all just messing real, real quick and then demo has another question.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna get provocative again because I gotta do my homework and I would love a woman's opinion on this, because Gender fluidity and women coming in sport are Transgender females coming into women's sports? Okay, i'm curious. Like You don't have to answer this, we can time stamp this. If you're uncomfortable with it, just let me know. But what is what are your thoughts on Somebody that was born a man, then becomes a woman coming into a sport? They say, no, we'll eat out alone. No, we know we can leave alone.
Speaker 3:We don't talk about this time stamp.
Speaker 2:I have friends.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:We're gonna talk about it. I think that personally, for someone to come into the women's sports or whatever, like you're still stronger than us, like I get you can take hormones and things like that and and like I just feel like. So let's give an example of a Homegirl that was swimming, mm-hmm. Yeah and then came in like one metals, and you know I mean crushed it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, kill, killed everybody, kill the competition, and I just think that There is still some sort of advantage. Okay, regardless, and there's no disrespect and there's no like. I respect who you are and who you. You know I mean.
Speaker 4:Who are the?
Speaker 2:human being and I respect all of that. But when it comes to competitiveness, if we, i Can't. You can't take away your strength, you can't just take that away.
Speaker 4:Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't understand the hormone and the the things that they do, but You can't take away that and you're you can still jump higher than me. Yeah, you can still, you're still stronger than me on any given day and they don't need the rim lowered. And they don't need the rim lower. Yeah but we haven't had anyone, and I'm thinking basketball, i don't know, have you guys heard it?
Speaker 2:I don't think I have not yet but, um, i know they've been trying to like make rules and different things like that, but me as a competitor is just like Okay, if she's busting my ass, i'm gonna be a little upset. No, absolutely cuz she just dumped on me.
Speaker 3:Talked on you know I mean.
Speaker 2:So that's the thing. I just think that there's I Don't know the fine line, you know, and how to handle all that, but I think that as a competitor, just as an athlete, i Think that I would be kind of like, alright, like I'm a compete, but if shorties, this is like busting my ass, like You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:No I winning everything.
Speaker 2:Is this like well? what are we supposed to do?
Speaker 3:No, I agree cuz I. I have a daughter.
Speaker 2:I can do everything, but there's just certain things, like physically, you know.
Speaker 3:I have a daughter that plays and I I feel that same way that test oscarone, but scientifically proven that it makes you stronger, recover faster all those kind of things and it's like If your levels are higher, no matter if you're taking hormones or whatever, they're still an advantage, right? That's why PEDs like that's an advantage. Yeah, like that's why they banned and that's my thing.
Speaker 2:It's like if you're taking drugs. They don't let you like.
Speaker 4:Mary Jones.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:So they disqualify her and took her shit away. So it's just like I don't know.
Speaker 3:I got you. It's just a tricky. It's just a tricky situation. Your publicist is saying we got to wrap things up. She's like yeah.
Speaker 2:I got something to do.
Speaker 4:And that that leads. So there's one, one question I always like to ask. But Uh, danielle wanted you to know that she's an aspiring basketball player. She just wanted you to know that, so be sure to give her a hug afterwards.
Speaker 2:You gonna be get an autograph. Everybody in this room.
Speaker 4:How tall are you See, i'm a little giant.
Speaker 2:All right we'll see you later. She's gonna be a shooting guard. I can see it.
Speaker 4:No, not, not the way her daddy set up. So we had a blast, blast today, a lot of great energy and Everything was cool, and would just love to know, assuming you had a good time, who would you recommend to come on the show?
Speaker 2:next Nikki, understand like she's literally Somebody in the city that I know. A lot of people maybe forgot or don't even know.
Speaker 4:Obviously, y'all generation knows who she is.
Speaker 2:But y'all gotta understand. I looked up to her and she talk cash shit.
Speaker 4:And that's the reason I talk shit, because of her Absolutely coming to gym and she'll bust somebody.
Speaker 2:Ass talk shit. Ain't go about her business, but she's literally a goat and she's like I don't know, that's just my dog like I look up to her. No, she's a goat always looked up to her And I don't know. Nikki Weddle. Get to know Nikki Weddle because I think she's a head coach now over range range if she is yeah but no, she, she was like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and.
Speaker 2:Denver legend.
Speaker 1:Well oh, tonight too Yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, she, kelly, thank you for coming on the show round of applause. Thank you to the audience. And you never stumble upon the unexpected if you stick to the familiar. So go out there and talk Me shit. Talk your shit, right.
